yin bagua xu shi xi NEW WEBSITE! READ!

[htowndragon]

hello
my sifu eugene chou's friend in china xu shi xi has sent him this link asking him to post it up in some places. he forwarded the link to me and asked me to post it in some forums so here you go:


http://www.xushixi.com/index_en.htm

[count]

The video's I have of Xu Shi Xi teaching, are amoung the best in my collection. Thanks for the link.

[htowndragon]

hey count
this is jason aka gongbaotianbagua, is your AIM handle what it says on your profile?

[BPW]

All right!! He's offering a VCD of all 8 Bagua palms for only $20.

Great site, HTown!

[looking_up]

I wonder what shipping will be...

[blacktaoist]

Hmmm..someone send me a hyperlink about this thread

I truly find it funny as hell some individuals up on the internet love making **** up...Hahaha

Jason aka gongbaotianbagua you claim your sifu eugene chou's is friends with one of my Yin teachers' Xu shi Xi. Well I always keep in contact with Xu ShiXi and his students through e-mail daily, I ask Xu Shi Xi about what you posted:

xu shi xi has sent him this link asking him to post it up in some places.

Well My teacher Xu told me he don't know your sifu, or did he ask him to post his website on any forums, or is he friends with your sifu. Because the real truth is he don't know the man! In fact he told me your Sifu e-mail him once and he never reply to him. Now if you like I can post the e-mail Xu sent to me in reply to your claims. So my question to you Jason is why lie about ****?

Looking_up

If you are interested in buying Xu Shi Xi Yin video series, I also sell both copys of the his video series in VHS form for 20$ =5$ shipping & handling. I have some small clips on my website of the 8 palms as well information about my teacher background.

you can go to this link for the video clips of the palms, once in click on Masters Xu Yin Style:http://www.blacktaoist.com/Intropage.html

For infor about Xu ShiXi you can go to these links:

http://www.blacktaoist.com/Master%20...e%20story.html

http://www.blacktaoist.com/Master%20Zhangqinglian.html

http://www.blacktaoist.com/Master%20...eiwpoints.html

[htowndragon]

my sifus brother ethan chou might be going to see him. my sifu has met him, and he has gone to china to visit him. you can go ask master xu, if he knows chou yi ching, and whether or not he has met him. **** you gotta stop stirring things up.

[htowndragon]

about him not knowing my sifu or whatever and about the email thing

that was probably directed towards the email i sent him last week asking him for info on his teacher zhang qing lian, i stated that my sifu was eugene chou, and he emailed back stating that he did not understand english, please write in chinese. I have not replied to him yet because my computers chinese program is not working. i dont know how you email with him considereing you probably dont know chinese. and my sifu does not go by eugene chou except in america, his name in chinese is Chou Yi Ching, and my sifu uses his chinese email account to talk to his friends in china.

you call yourself the black taoist, but your wu de is anything but daoist. I posted the link because my sifu wanted to help out a friend by promoting his website, and you come up here all "im the only one who knows master xu and im the authority on him in america". you really need to chill.

[htowndragon]

btw black taoist, why are you "stealing your teachers business"? Master Xu put the videos up on his site so that people could by from him, and as he is in China, this would be a good oppurtunity for him to make a little money. Do you think he made a website so that you could come out and say, I'm selling my teachers videos, by from me?

if you are sending some of the money to master Xu then I apologize for the above accusation.

[blacktaoist]

Stirring things up, Man you did that all by yourself already, but hey it’s been a long time I had a good old Kung Fu debate on this forum. You deal out the cards, and I play.... lets get it on...hahaha I'm in the need for some stirring up of Ba Gua internal fun.

The truth and facts are you were lying that's the bottom line! So save me your Wu De bull, here some Chinese advice: "learn to tell the TRUTH".


Like I said before you write in your post that your Sifu Eugene Chou is friends with my teacher Xu Shi Xi, but the true fact is Xu shi Xi don’t know the man or did he contact your Sifu or anyone for that matter asking to post any link. Why should he when a few of his students and I posted up a link to his website a year ago. Bottom line I know the real deal, so if you want to keep kicking your lie, that's on you.

i dont know how you email with him considereing you probably dont know chinese.

I guess all the information, photos I have of Xu Shi Xi and video clips of him on my website I invented myself because I don't know Chinese.

Do I know Chinese, back two year I didn't know much, but today I can hold my own very well. Did you know in the good old U.S.A there are centers in N.Y.C. China town where a individual that wants to learn mandarin can go pay for lessons, I BELIEVE ITS CALLED A "SCHOOL" that holds courses that teach skills in listening to, speaking, reading and writing Mandarin Chinese. My friend I think you need to get out in the world more...Hahaha

As for e-mails, I do believe people in this world can buy Chinese programs, you know software (English to Chinese) You know the **** you claim that’s not working for you.... hahaha

Better yet, here e-mail from my teacher Xu a few days ago when I ask him about your post, being someone sent me a link to your thread because they thought I find it interesting. Unlike you I have no reason to lie, but hey I guess that’s what you think Wu De is all about lying and ****!

Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:56:59 +0800 (CST)
From: "ÐìÊÀÎõ" <xulaoshi@163.com> Add to Address Book
To: "novell bell" <brotherlaoqiang@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: xulaoshi

HI:liaoqiang
How are you and your family?
I'm glad you'll come to Beijing this year. I'm
waiting for you.
I don't know guy. He e-mail me even. But I don't
back.

xu lao shi


And I have a lot more e-mails I can post public, but what the point, Master Xu and his students stay in contact though e-mails with me all the time kid, so save me your bull about him not e-mailing you because he don't understand english, because the man been using a chinese program Software
(Chinese to English )But I guess you say I invented that e-mail...Hahaha
You must think I just pop up in Beijing China with out notice, and wait in the park and say I 'm here Xu...Hahaha

"im the only one who knows master xu and im the authority on him in america". you really need to chill.

The more I read your post, the more funny it looks to me,one reason why I stop posting on this forum because of internat kung Fu experts like you.

But hey likes talk about real truth and facts. one fact is I never said I was an authority of Xu Shi Xi ever in any of my post. But the truth of the matter is I'm the only individual in this country teaching Teacher Xu Shi Xi Yin Ba Gua Zhang, there is no other individuals but good old "INTERNET WORLD-RENOWNED NAME BLACKTAOIST" A.K.A REAL NAME NOVELL G. BELL. You know little old black me, the black guy who knows Ba Gua Zhang , the black guy all the ba gua fakes fear, because you all know I'm all about the real ****! "KEEPING IT REAL"The brother in America who have Xu shi Xi full permission & support to teach his system, Don't believe me, why don't you ask Xu Shi Xi, or better yet ask your Sifu being that you claim he and Xu shiXi are friends. A why you at it\, by don't you ask my Teacher if I have full permission & support to sell his video tapes, I would think so being that he send me many VCD's to sell for him. ASK HIM! Kid you truly don't know what time it is with me and Xu Shi Xi, but all you have to do is ask him and find out!

the only thing I'm Stirring up is truth....unlike you!

later.

[htowndragon]

i lie? wth you think that i posted this link here not knowing you posted on this forum? ive seen countless numbers of your posts, especially the ones where people ask you about your reading problem. you think that i posted this thing just so that i could stir something up with you? well many peopel have tried, and if chinese martial arts had a "arguing" system youd be a master of it, just because no one has the energy to argue with your stubborness anymore.

i got final exams tommorow but ill take the time to play this little game

1. you like to stir truth
ok
so what was with that time when you kicked me and my si di jost out of your discussion board, and got one of your guys to post a email saying that us two were fakes and that we were the same person? you guys started sayin **** about me just because i was what, 15 at that time? i grew up in houstons chinatown, and i learned a lot, so dont be sayin that i dont know **** about what im talking about

2. i want to see the email you SENT to xu lao shi, my sifu uses his chinese email aco**** (www.kimo.com, or hinet) and his name appears in chinese. his name is Chou Yi Ching, pronounced Zho Yi Ching, and he has gone to beijing and met with xu lao shi when he went to china a few years back.

3. WHY would my sifu want to pretend to know your teacher? whats the point? your teacher has high level kung fu, but he really isn't anybody famous. its not like he's going to get anything out of using his name or anything.

4. to you everyone lies, your the one who always tells the truth, the one who is always the promoter of truth. your name is black taoist after all, and taoists dont lie, well your name isn't really "clean" in the chinese martial arts community my friend BLACK TAOIST aka HEI DAO SHI really doesnt make people shake to their knees and collapse.

5. your selling your teachers videos, what is he getting out of it? that man DOESN'T CHARGE you whenever you go to beijing, so why don't you let him make his own sales? its china, they need the money.

must study for spanish now......

[blacktaoist]

Kid I already prove my point already there nothing more too say... You have any questions about me and Teacher Xu Shi Xi relatationship, all you have to do is ask the man. You have Xu e-mail use it! Its that sample!


1. you like to stir truth
ok
so what was with that time when you kicked me and my si di jost out of your discussion board, and got one of your guys to post a email saying that us two were fakes and that we were the same person? you guys started sayin **** about me just because i was what, 15 at that time? i grew up in houstons chinatown, and i learned a lot, so dont be sayin that i dont know **** about what im talking about

You know the real reason why you were kick out my group. LYING! So just move on it’s the past.
Kid if you are that upset I put you out my group, you welcome to join the group again, because like I said I don't have nothing against you. I don't know you personally so why should I. But I will not put up with you lying or you acting like a little spoiled kid. Anyone with knowledge of the topic you are you trying to discuss can easy see you don't know what you are talking about!


your name is black taoist after all, and taoists dont lie, well your name isn't really "clean" in the chinese martial arts community my friend BLACK TAOIST aka HEI DAO SHI really doesnt make people shake to their knees and collapse.

O boy my feelings are hurt, as I give a **** about what Fakes Ba Gua teachers think or say about me.

Well I guess my name would not be so well taking in the chinese martial arts communinity by the fake Ba gua teachers fronting like that have true combat skills with Ba Gua Zhang when in fact that have nothing.

I still waiting for some so-called Ba Gua Zhang masters from your system to step up and demonstrate they fighting skills on me. But you and I know that's not going to happen right...Hahaha

Tell you the truth I don't have the time or energy to argue with you kid, but the more you post the funny your looking too me...keep putting out them chinese cards and I keep playing my hand...hahaha

Anyway do your homework....

[maoshan]

You know what?

You need to go study, yourself in particular. And ask yourself why you need so much attention that you need to lie to get it.

To begin with I’m going to break your lie down just like I did the last time.

First, even if master Xu didn’t know the name of your teacher when BT ask him about your claim, wouldn’t he still know that he asked somebody in the US to post the link at all???????
If he’s your teachers friend, than why are you dissing him by acting like he’s got Alzheimer’s or something? Is he senile?

Who’s stirring up ****? Just like the last time, you took somebody else’s post and are mis-representing it.

And as far as this Wu De crap is concerned, you know nothing about it. We live it. And it is no secrete that we don’t deal with spiritual aspects of the Tao when it comes to Ba-Gua and the Internet, there’s too many of those types up here now misleading people with Qi dreams.

(btw black taoist, why are you "stealing your teachers business"?)

Think about what your saying man. Why would he do that? He’s his US rep.
He’s been with Master Xu for about 4yrs now. What your saying is ridicules and has no base. Why would you send money all the way too China when you could get it here. The shipping from China is going to cost a bit more than getting it right here. All proceeds do and have been sent to him.

(i lie? wth you think that i posted this link here not knowing you posted on this forum? ive seen countless numbers of your posts, especially the ones where people ask you about your reading problem. you think that i posted this thing just so that i could stir something up with you?)

No, you put it up to be the “Big Man”. I peeped your ****. And that’s all there is too it.

(so what was with that time when you kicked me and my si di jost out of your discussion board, and got one of your guys to post a email saying that us two were fakes and that we were the same person?)

Because ya’ll really sounded like one and the same person. Ya’ll must have been reading and using some of each others stuff which lead to that conclusion.

(you guys started sayin **** about me just because i was what, 15 at that time?)

What?????????????
No we were talking about you, not your age. We were talking about your actions. We talked about how you lied and professed things you are not capable of. We talked about how you copied and pasted methods of another style on Jarek’s site to prove a point about your style, which was not true.

(i grew up in houstons chinatown, and i learned a lot, so dont be sayin that i dont know **** about what im talking about)

You may have learned a lot but you don’t know ****! The things you tried to talk about need time and experience to really elaborate on and you just aren’t there yet and you need to except that and stop having tantrums when your card is pulled.

(i want to see the email you SENT to xu lao shi)

What are you trying to say?????????????????????????????
You wouldn’t even know about him if BT didn’t start promoting him almost 4yrs ago and you just learned about him from BT’s site, but you don’t want to admit that because he kicked you off his board for lying and being disrespectful.

(his name is Chou Yi Ching, pronounced Zho Yi Ching, and he has gone to beijing and met with xu lao shi when he went to china a few years back.)

Does this change the point I made earlier about him not remembering asking your teacher at all in terms of the favor.

(WHY would my sifu want to pretend to know your teacher?)

No, it’s you who are pretending that your teacher knows Master Xu and was asked a favor from him.

(your teacher has high level kung fu, but he really isn't anybody famous. its not like he's going to get anything out of using his name or anything.)

No, but you will If we didn’t say anything.

(4. to you everyone lies, your the one who always tells the truth, the one who is always the promoter of truth. your name is black taoist after all, and taoists dont lie,)


When it comes to combat that’s the only truth that matters in the martial arts. Pe3ople like you talk about fighting instead of fighting trying to profess expertise in fantasy fights that have no meaning in reality. The truth is in your Palm, not in your mouth. Get me?

(well your name isn't really "clean" in the chinese martial arts community my friend BLACK TAOIST aka HEI DAO SHI really doesnt make people shake to their knees and collapse.)

What do you mean clean? As in humble? If that’s the case that **** is dead. But who’s going to step to him? It’s about ability in the end. The baddest people in the world were not liked by everybody so what’s your point?

(your selling your teachers videos, what is he getting out of it? that man DOESN'T CHARGE you whenever you go to beijing, so why don't you let him make his own sales? its china, they need the money.)


Your very presumptuous ain’t you?
Your right, go study your Spanish and go learn some common sense as well.

[shawnsegler]

Relax, guys.

You're still the baddest most '"keepin to reality" Yin Bagua guys on the block.

Everyone knows that....

Everyone....



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[htowndragon]

ok so you say i copied jareks page, i thought that was over with because i showed you, highlighted, capitalized and all the psot where i said, i got this from jareks site.

no im not mad that im no longer a part of your discussion board, im mad that you kicked me out for reasons that were left unanswered. how was i lying, what was i lying about? you said i wasn't who i said i was, and i gave you, the black taoist, my sifus cell phone number and email and asked you to contact him yourself. you say me and jost talk alike. no we dont. he is a lot less hot headed than i am. but if you still insist we talk alike, we are like brothers, hell we are kung fu brothers, and we are close, maybe thats why.

you say that no one from my pai has stepped up, if you think this, how come maoshan learned from he jin han for a while? (in a long ago post i read that you did). if our kung fu is so inadequate, how come maoshan bothered to learn it?


if you trully practice the internal, your skill wil only increase exponentially throughout your life, so i wont be taking advantage of an "old man".

i have nothing against you personally, and you probably are a cool guy when your not on these discussion forums, but i was ****ed when you started calling me a liar, even though i proved that i wasn't.

i have sent an email to master xu in chinese asking for information about his pai for the book that im writing for school, i will ask him about his relationship with my sifu if i get the chance. i have stated who my sifu is in the email i sent.

<When it comes to combat that’s the only truth that matters in the martial arts. Pe3ople like you talk about fighting instead of fighting trying to profess expertise in fantasy fights that have no meaning in reality. The truth is in your Palm, not in your mouth. Get me?>

i understand perfectly, you have not yet entered the door of bagua. you give me the impression of a street fighter.
"chan chuan wei yi" you do not yet understand this concept, and therefore you are still practicing "external" bagua.

you talk about keeping it real, if you want to keep it 100% real you might as well just buy a gun.

my southern mantis si gung henry poo yee is at the height of kung fu skill. has your bagua reached the level where you can cross hands with him? can your palm match his? i dont care if your bagua is usable on the street. my bagua has been used on the street ever since my mom moved us over here to ft collins colroado and i had to deal with the god**** KKK *******s almost everyday at school. my bagua works for me when i need it at this point.

why do i practice kung fu? why does anyone practice kung fu? and before i go into this dont be saying im tlakin all the **** that bad bagua-ers say, because i can use my bagua, and have used it, the fact that its against teenagers doesnt matter because as i am a teenager myself, i can at least use it against people who are a few years older or bigger than me. kung fu is to improve oneself, its a life art, and if you practice it only for fighting you might as well go learn street fighting or kickboxing, which is what i think what you call "keeping it real". maybe its because your from the rough side of new york, but then again houston isn't all that "sweet" either. you practice bagua only to fight. so what happens if one day everyone owns a gun and no one walks around without one anymore? will you stop practicing bagua then?

my si di jost got mad because he says you guys dissed on him for wanting to talk philosophy. how can you know how to fight if you do not know the philosophy of bagua? how can you fight without knowing theory and principles? the movements in bagua are not movements that you just take out and throw out at people in the street. it is not the movement, its what is going on inside. the movements dont matter on the outside, because if you dont understand the movement then you will not be able to use it (maybe if you are bigger than the other person you can use it externally, but it wont work if hte otehr person is bigger than you). a judo master once asked my great kung fu uncle wang ming che of sho san gong bao tian bagua in kaoshiung how he got away form his judo grasp, he replied,"internal uses intent, not power!" power comes form intent, and if the intent does not lead the power then you are not practicing kung fu, you are practicing blank movements.

i will post more tommorow. need to get some sleep

black taoist adn mao shan- i do not want to be your enemy, and i dont see why i should, but obviously we have differences in opinion and many things we do not agree on.