US Draft to start in Spring 2005??

[T'ai Ji Monkey]

Originally posted by Christopher M

Yeah, it's my usual song and dance - inform yourselves, think critically. Still falling on deaf ears though. You eat the lies they feed you because you love their taste.

You know your statement might have some merit if I was American, since I am not whatever the US Goverment decides does in actuality NOT affect me.

So why are you as a Canadian so obsessed with the US Goverment and the Bush Administration??

[Christopher M]

Can't people propagandize without getting "mucked up" with a bit of the pesky truth? I really hope not.

[T'ai Ji Monkey]

Chris M.

Do you know why I would recommend a National Service for American Citizens and many other countries, because IMHO they have forgotten a lot of things and have started to believe in the "American Dream" forgetting that this Idea/Dream is an Ideal and not reality.

Thinks like Freedom/Democracy/etc are only for people that can afford them, neither can those things be given/taught to other people.

US Policy in Germany and Japan was successful because those countries already had the foundation for democracy and were already on the road towards it.
I speak to people from a lot of countries and it is really interesting to hear different sides and opinions.

I always love when I hear comments that cutting someones hand off goes against democratic values but gassing someone to death is ok, talk about a bunch of gob.

[Ford Prefect]

Taiji Monkey,

Have you ever been to America? If so, where and how long? Or are you just basing this off what you see on TV?

[scotty1]

Just because the term used to describe fighting arts uses the word 'martial' doesn't mean all 'martial artists' want to join the military.

Q: What exactly does training in a fighting art as a civilian, for your own personal protection, have to do with war in the 21st century anyway?

A: Jack sh!t.

[David Jamieson]

Canada also used conscription. Though they would only use it during times of great need and rescind it entirely in peace time.

the last time conscription was used was in WW2. It was enacted in the same year that we made the joint defense pact with the US.

Canada still has the "draft", but it is only to be used if the war comes to our soil. We don't use it to drum up an invading force.

During ww2, canada was part of Britain still and ergo conscription applied.

Anyway, if Bush gets in again, you can probably bet on getting drafted and sent off to the hell in the middle east where you will be the pot shot target of every crazy mullah loving fanatic available while you toil in danger for your meager script and to forward the military industrial complex that the american economy has been propped on for oh so long LOL.

Poor bas.tards, some of you guys are really gonna hate that experience. But come on up to Canada! It's cold, but it's a free country.

cheers

[T'ai Ji Monkey]

Originally posted by Ford Prefect
Taiji Monkey,

Have you ever been to America? If so, where and how long? Or are you just basing this off what you see on TV?

I have been there, done bussiness with many US guys, got US expats friends and literally talked to thousands.

Example 1:
Americans seem to believe that the live in the country that has the most freedom, actually I have been to countries where there is more actual freedom than in the states.

Many of my expat friends themselves said what I said here.

One thing that I see is that BOTH Europe and the USA(a little slower) is evolving into the next stage after democracy, i.e. turning towards right-wing more populace control, etc.

Democracy is not the final ultimate stop in goverment form but simply an evolutionary step, many europeans already realised that.

[Meat Shake]

Originally posted by Phrost
Anyone else find the irony in a bunch of martial artists being against war?

Martial: Of or relating to war.

mar·tial ( P ) Pronunciation Key (märshl)
adj.

1. Of, relating to, or suggestive of war.
2. Relating to or connected with the armed forces or the profession of arms.
3. Characteristic of or befitting a warrior.

I gave the definition of warrior in another thread. But yes, your answer is partially correct.

And phrost, just to clear it up, Im not following your posts trying to prove you wrong, Im just quick to hit up dictionary.com when someone drops a definition that I question.

[Meat Shake]

"So why are you as a Canadian so obsessed with the US Goverment and the Bush Administration??"

Because america is undoubtedly the most powerful nation in the world, and we have an idiot leading our armies.
Its like giving a loaded gun to an angry child with downsyndrome in the middle of a daycare.

[Christopher M]

Originally posted by Kung Lek
Anyway, if Bush gets in again, you can probably bet on getting drafted

As opposed to if Kerry gets elected, where we can bet on not getting drafted?

[Christopher M]

Originally posted by T'ai Ji Monkey
turning towards right-wing more populace control, etc.

What does populace control have to do with right-wing?

[blooming lotus]

what do drafts really have to do with serving your country????.....In my opinion , especially where Bush and his one world government objectives are concerned ...what you're really serving his is his ego....what bs option, to serve, suffer consequence or uproot your life : flee and become a native criminal..........BS, but we knew it was comming.................

[Xebsball]

Originally posted by yenhoi
Why are you so worried. Most Nations on earth have mandatory military service. This is not unusual for anywhere else on earth.

dont be a fool
just cos it exists doesnt mean its good or that people support it
pratically everone i know (xept a few dumb fockers) is against draft
but we still have it
and we dodge it
oh man how we dodge
and we like to dodge it
im about to have an orgasm

[T'ai Ji Monkey]

Originally posted by Christopher M


What does populace control have to do with right-wing?

Sorry, for got to insert a comma there it should read.

"turning towards right-wing, more populace control, etc"

But I guess anal-retentive people like you can't spot it.

[T'ai Ji Monkey]

Originally posted by blooming lotus
what do drafts really have to do with serving your country????.....In my opinion , especially where Bush and his one world government objectives are concerned ...what you're really serving his is his ego....what bs option, to serve, suffer consequence or uproot your life : flee and become a native criminal..........BS, but we knew it was comming.................

They elected him and now they got to swallow the Pill.