Kung Fu and the UFC, which is more reality based?

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by blooming lotus
rear triangle choke come carteroid-flow block-hold........ common sense tells us that if we twist outwards ( as the aim of the tech suggests ) ,,,you can guarantee his or her head'll detatch from their spine

are you referring to hadaka jime?

[blooming lotus]

I don't know.....I learn so many languages and jazz I often forget and have to figure it out from language base than memory............some teachers didn't even use native terms at all ............hmmm.....working on some japanese language any day now


really .........just can't remember.....it doesn't sound familiar though.....you're talking ninjitsu but ha???.....can you use your own words and describe hadaka jime back to me???

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by blooming lotus
is that right..........I only ask about registration because here in China there are so many adept players and notta one is registered............

Maybe you should be registered with a shrink!

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by reemul
I don't have to kill someone to know I can, not because of my training but because of who I am.

[Glimmer]

There aren't too many techniques that are deemed ' illegal' in vale tudo/nhb, enough stuff is allowed - but i think this is a mute point really, because the importance lies in how you test a technique.

If you repeatedly test a technique while under pressure, in a big scary ring when up against a large ugly guy, then chances are you will make that technique work in the street against a lesser opponement. It is closer to reality then a kwoon/dojo.

With illegal moves, you do not get to practice them against realistic targets and while under great pressure, which makes them less likely to work as planned in a chaotic street fight. The failure of unrealistic training has been a major problem in the army & police for many years - because good people instinctively did not want to blind someone or shoot them and were frozen by the possibility of what damage they could do.

The MMA guys might still lack specific SD training, but they always compete and always test out moves under full pressure - which clearly gives them, as a majority, an advantage.

[Dark Knight]

I only ask about registration because here in China there are so many adept players and notta one is registered

What do you mean registered? My rank is registered with national and international organizations.

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by Dark Knight
My rank is registered with national and international organizations.

Boy, you must really smell bad!

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by blooming Idiot
I don't know.....I learn so many languages and jazz I often forget and have to figure it out from language base than memory............

You are full right up to the rim with bull****. Ain't room fer no mo'!

[reemul]

Your logic seems to be "how do we know a technique works if we don't practice it to its conclusion"

when grappling how do you know you can break an arm if your not breaking all of your peers arms in practice.

Brooklyn Monk:
Like I said Shaolin temple is not the same as the shaolin systems prior to the PRC version. So I don't refer to them when I speak of Shaolin. So what ever you witness at Shaolin temple does not apply to Shaolin schools elswhere.

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by reemul
Your logic seems to be "how do we know a technique works if we don't practice it to its conclusion"

That's a great argument, considering that you don't practice your techniques at all!

[reemul]

You belief is making you look ignorant. Your making assumptions about a school and a system you have never been to. Your basing your assumption on other schools or systems.

If your going to quote me or anyone learn to quote all the relevant statements. Otherwise your just taking things out of context.

Your logic seems to be "how do we know a technique works if we don't practice it to its conclusion"
when grappling how do you know you can break an arm if your not breaking all of your peers arms in practice.

Why don't you answer that.

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by reemul
You belief is making you look ignorant. Your making assumptions about a school and a system you have never been to. Your basing your assumption on other schools or systems.

Assumptions?! That's all you got!

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by reemul


"Your logic seems to be "how do we know a technique works if we don't practice it to its conclusion"
when grappling how do you know you can break an arm if your not breaking all of your peers arms in practice."


Why don't you answer that.

Ok. I don't practice breaking people's arms. I don't claim that as a special skill. I have, however, broken people's arms in actual confrontations. I don't assume that I can break someone's arm at will in any given situation, and I sure as hell don't offer it as an all-purpose hope/excuse.

How's that?

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by blooming lotus
I don't know.....I learn so many languages and jazz I often forget and have to figure it out from language base than memory............some teachers didn't even use native terms at all ............hmmm.....working on some japanese language any day now


really .........just can't remember.....it doesn't sound familiar though.....you're talking ninjitsu but ha???.....can you use your own words and describe hadaka jime back to me???

http://web1.vattnet.com/judo/katamewaza/hadakajime.html

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by reemul
Your logic seems to be "how do we know a technique works if we don't practice it to its conclusion"

once again, no. Like I said in my last post, I don't have to break an arm to know it will break. But, I do know that I can get myself into position to do so because I do it every day against a resisting opponent. I stop once I am in position. I know I have the tech because my opponent taps. I can still do it with pressure and not break it. you can't do that with the techniques we've been discussing.