The Boxer Rebellion

[Syn7]

They obviously didn't have the AUTHENTIC TCMA !!

too bad HW wasnt there... he couldve saved everyone...

[Syn7]

I know you understood what I was saying. So why do you always have to knit pick like some old woman?

sorta answered your own question there didnt ya?

[Lee Chiang Po]

sorta answered your own question there didnt ya?

Well, not really. Maybe I just over reacted?

I have seen pictures of large stacks of heads, all piled up. No bodies in sight except for the one just getting his neck shaved. The headsman was a little old man with this great big knife. Looked like a cane knife. He was stoning it while two great big Chinamen were holding the victims arms behind his back, sort of twisting them so that he is all bent over in pain. The old man would eventually get up and whack him one. It was written on the back of the pictures the name of the headsman and his two sons, and that they were getting 25 cents American per head. It is a bit hard to imagine someone willing to kill off their neighbors for a quarter each.

[Syn7]

she argues like an old woman coz she is an old woman... and she has 45 year old sand in her vagina...

she likes to preach acting civilized and keep arguments respectful and productive... yet she takes loosely veiled shots all the time, like using a slightly higher than average and absolutely nerdly bourgeois vocabulary makes it less offensive... or maybe she thinks they just wont get it coz she is so far ahead of them in intelligence...

[ghostexorcist]

Well, not really. Maybe I just over reacted?

I have seen pictures of large stacks of heads, all piled up. No bodies in sight except for the one just getting his neck shaved. The headsman was a little old man with this great big knife. Looked like a cane knife. He was stoning it while two great big Chinamen were holding the victims arms behind his back, sort of twisting them so that he is all bent over in pain. The old man would eventually get up and whack him one. It was written on the back of the pictures the name of the headsman and his two sons, and that they were getting 25 cents American per head. It is a bit hard to imagine someone willing to kill off their neighbors for a quarter each.

According to what I've been able to find, 25 cents American around the year 1900 was equal to 41 cents Chinese (allowing for differences in gold and silver exchange rates). There was a rise in food prices during this time. This means a man would do things like behead his neighbors in order to feed himself and his family.

[diego]

http://archive.org/stream/chineseher...ge/n0/mode/2up

http://archive.org/search.php?query=...iatype%3Atexts

I'm trying to find a copy of the old 5 elders novel in English, anyone have any recommendations of classical Chinese literature I should look out for on Google?.

[taaigihk]

Cool photo of dandao and a shuangshoudai on page 216. Thx!

[bawang]

didnt some south korean bible group go to iraq to convert muslims in the middle of the iraqi war? people never learn.

because of arrogance of catholic and protestant missionaries they undid 1600 years of syrian and iranian christian missionary work in china.

[Kellen Bassette]

Being the anniversary of the Wounded Knee Massacre, it seems like there are several parallels to the Boxer Rebellion.
Any thoughts?

http://iloveancestry.com/memories/19...t-dance-wovoka

[lkfmdc]

http://nysanda.wordpress.com/2013/01...oxer-uprising/

http://nysanda.wordpress.com/2014/11...ory-part-four/

Of course, read Esherick if you are really serious

[bawang]

Being the anniversary of the Wounded Knee Massacre, it seems like there are several parallels to the Boxer Rebellion.
Any thoughts?

http://iloveancestry.com/memories/19...t-dance-wovoka

mowing down hordes of kung fu savages was colonial propaganda.

the boxer rebellion was very complicated but mostly was about geopolitics with many pawn pieces. magic kung fu was a very small part in it.

modern historian view and books on it is very biased because it doesnt effect anything today so is just quickly passed over without fact checking. if you research the original accounts you can tease out the truth.

that period was very chaotic because there were many factions each with their own unique views and goals.

[Kellen Bassette]

I have read your blogs before Dave, thanks for sharing, I always enjoy them....

I don't know a whole lot about either event really, other than the readily available, condensed versions of the story you find everywhere...I just thought it interesting that the strong similarities in the plot climaxed into a similar end. Obviously, Wounded Knee was a much smaller scale than the boxer rebellion, but we see the same elements, foreign oppression, legitimate, organized resistance, but with inferior weapons/numbers, desperation resulting in charlatans hawking "new magic traditions" and a last ditch effort that ends in a massacre.

the boxer rebellion was very complicated but mostly was about geopolitics with many pawn pieces. magic kung fu was a very small part in it.

I have no doubt your right about this. The "magic Kung Fu" portion of the story would have made for great propaganda then; and even today. Objectively it is one of the more interesting parts of the story, to the average person browsing histories. I'm sure there was a lot more to the American Indians story as well, before some of them resorted to "magic shirts," but it does show something of a common thread when a traditional culture is under attack.

At some point I'll have to find some deeper reading on the subjects....

[bawang]

I have no doubt your right about this. The "magic Kung Fu" portion of the story would have made for great propaganda then; and even today. Objectively it is one of the more interesting parts of the story, to the average person browsing histories. I'm sure there was a lot more to the American Indians story as well, before some of them resorted to "magic shirts," but it does show something of a common thread when a traditional culture is under attack.

At some point I'll have to find some deeper reading on the subjects....

u looking at the tree and missing the forest.

boxer rebels believed white people were demons coming from a portal in the middle of the pacific ocean.

[Kellen Bassette]

u looking at the tree and missing the forest.

boxer rebels believed white people were demons coming from a portal in the middle of the pacific ocean.

That's absurd. The portal is in Scandinavia.

[lkfmdc]

white people were demons coming from a portal in the middle of the pacific ocean.

That is why they were ignorant peasants, we all know that portal is under Gene's desk in his office