Judo vs Tai Chi

[Water Dragon]

Originally posted by SPJ
That got me thinking.

How to avoid the Judo throw?

Pull guard

[wujidude]

Originally posted by Knifefighter
How would one go about determining when and where his seminars are held?

www.chenxiaowang.com, on the "Workshops" page.

I talked with someone who was at the seminar where this happened, and his account pretty much accords with Doug's. There was another incident with an on-the-spot challenge from a Muay Thai boxer, and Chen put him down hard on the floor with a leg injury.

[SPJ]

No need to verify stories.

Yang Lu Chan studied Lao Jia with Chen Chan Xin. He was undefeatable in Beijing at the time. Thus the nickname is Yang Wu Di.

Practice Tai Ji, you start with Lao Jia. It has the very basic steps and movements. It is easy. Because you are doing the large circles.

Guess what. Even that took me years to practice.

The circles become smaller to mid sizes in other forms.

The last stage is movement without movement. Circles with no circles. Breathing without breathing.

You are motionless. When the opponent touches your body parts or arms. They feel your circling Jin without seeing your arms moving. They got thrown several feet away.

Circles of no circles.

[Miles Teg]

Hey full credit to Chen stylists, Ive heard they are very skilled. Everyone is saying good things about them. I would give it a go if they had one where I live.
Im not questioning whether this teacher is capable of this or not.

Just the action that high level judo guy took sounds very very weird.

[Miles Teg]

Hey full credit to Chen stylists, Ive heard they are very skilled. Everyone is saying good things about them. I would give it a go if they had one where I live.
Im not questioning whether this teacher is capable of this or not.

Just the action that high level judo guy took sounds very very weird.

[Miles Teg]

......unless he shagged his wife or something, in which case ...yeah, even Id probably rush someone from behind. Maybe even with a weopon.

[Water Dragon]

Back in the day, every famous story of an internal guy involved him beating a Shuai Chiao man.

Now, the all involve the internal guy beating a Muay Thai Boxer, MMA guy, BJJer, or Judoka.

There's a reason these guys always show up in the stories.

[bamboo_ leaf]

yep, you think that they would have learned by now

[Water Dragon]

lol

[Doug]

Originally posted by Water Dragon
Back in the day, every famous story of an internal guy involved him beating a Shuai Chiao man.

Now, the all involve the internal guy beating a Muay Thai Boxer, MMA guy, BJJer, or Judoka.

There's a reason these guys always show up in the stories.

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[Water Dragon]

Originally posted by Doug
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[Miles Teg]

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[Felipe Bido]

Originally posted by Water Dragon
Back in the day, every famous story of an internal guy involved him beating a Shuai Chiao man.

Now, the all involve the internal guy beating a Muay Thai Boxer, MMA guy, BJJer, or Judoka.

There's a reason these guys always show up in the stories.

Is it like the stories that say "You didn't tell me you were using Xingyi!", like it happened to Zhang Xiangzhai (NOT Wang Xiangzhai) and Sun Lutang?...

What would be the modern equivalent?..."You didn't tell me you had a ****ing pocket knife!!!" or something like that?

[Water Dragon]

Originally posted by Miles Teg
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[SPJ]

Let me break the silence.

Wrestling became a sport about 2000 years ago in China.

Shuai Jiao is both a sport and a combative method.

Judo is a sport version of throwing with rules. The way of the soft/gentleness. The do (Dao) of Ju (Ruo).

Tai Ji Quan evolved from long boxing. It is a combative method.

Even though people nowadays practice Tai Ji for health and meditation.

In essence, Tai Ji is still a fighting method. The ultimate (Ji) method of making people fall.

There are more ways to "throw" and to uproot then Judo or Shuai Jiao. Tai Ji is at whole different levels and more.

And Tai Ji may even break the opponent's arm or sway the opponent's arm like a heavy long spear.

Please do not compare apples with oranges.

I am a Judo fan for its principles and practices. And, most important of all, the spirits it represents.

I rooted for my mates in Judo games in college.

Peace.