bouncing

[Unmatchable]

how do you get a job as a bouncer? What do you have to do just go to a bar and ask them if they are hiring bouncers or do you need some security class/experience? Also do you have to look big and intimidating? or can you be small with good skills? And also how do you throw people out without punching them and without getting punched?

[David Jamieson]

look in the jobs section of the paper?

They are genereally referred to as "door people" or door men.

The game is restrain and contain.

stuff happens, been der done dat. lol no you don't need to be big and burly, but a lot of places prefer it because that in itself is a deterrent.

[norther practitioner]

KL pretty much got that one right...

Yeah, just go in and ask..

Don't go when they are slammed though, I hate when I'm working the door or behind the bar and someone askes if we are hiring.

[Unmatchable]

any of you guys know some good restraining techniques? I can think of only few and bad ones that don't leave me open for a punch.

[Meat Shake]

Id say to check out Dr. Yang's Anylsis of chin na 2nd edition, pick out a few techniques and train them reptitiously against a resisting opponent.

[David Jamieson]

Fairbairn and Sykes Defendu program has tons of them. The system was designed more or less for law enforcement peeps and contains loads on restrain and contain techs.

Chin Na is good and so is aikido. Standard GR wrestling has tons of stuff and so does JJ in any of it's manifestations. There si a lot out there.

wrist locks and arm bars are always effective. ;-)

[Unmatchable]

for the last few years I have only been training in Muay Thai and Muay thai is almost all striking except clinch work (with alot of restrictions like no grabbing legs or back) which is not very effective for restraining (aikido would be even more effective or Judo or tai chi).

Problem is sometimes the people I try moves on move their hands out of the way or jerk hard and out of the move. Or for instance one time I tried grabbing a guys neck Muay Thai clinch style with one hand first like your sopposed to and the guy ducked his head and moved it back almost simutanously as I grabbed it with one hand and before I could grab it with the other and was out of my reach. The only thing I can really do well is striking everything else I suck at.

[Meat Shake]

So practice other things.

[ShaolinTiger00]

3 things.

1. size. My buddy Idi (from the African country of Mali) is 6'4 and weighs about 340 lbs. He usually doesn't even have to say anything to most people. He points a giant finger and you and then the door and you just go. No one, not even the "napoleon" syndrome drunk guy wants to get in a physical conflict with a guy like this. and that's without knowing that he's a national and international judo champ. Intimidation can be a huge factor in keeping the peace.

2. verbal judo. I've got another friend who works back in the sticks of Ohio in a rowdy country bar. This guy is about 180lbs of blue collar muscle and lifts weights. Because everyone thinks they can try to mess with a smaller bouncer, he uses attitude and voice to navigate a guy out of the bar. He's really a master at it.. He's got all kinds of ways, "the good guy", "the badass", "the I know you're right and the bartender is wrong" etc.. and he rarely has to handle someone. he gets respect for treating customers well.

3. a cool head. There is nothing worse than a bouncer with martial arts experience who thinks he's gonna "Roadhouse" every problem. Sorry Swayze, but that's not only a good way to find a pool stick in your lung, but it's a good way to get a lawsuit and police troubles. A good bouncer will know that if there is a fight etc. that they need to work as a group to stop the problem.

[Oso]

a good bar will have a variety of bouncer types. the big guy, the cooler, the talker.

[Meat Shake]

What song is that in your sig oso?

[ShaolinTiger00]

It's a baseline.

[Meat Shake]

No no, its a bassline.

[ShaolinTiger00]

you are correct. sorry I'm typing foe net ic lee 2 day.

[Oso]

one other word of warning about bouncing/bar work:

you need to not give a **** about your lungs.

did 7 years straight and it was only about a year after I quit that I realized how ****ed up my lungs had become from the 'harmless' 2nd hand smoke.


and, yes, it'a a bassline.

one of the phatest basslines around, imo.

been listening to it for 2 days now, non stop...