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  1. 09-21-2004, 09:39 AM #1
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    The main and subordinate art

    Where some explore and making claims about kiu Sau... long kiu, short kiu.......etc.

    In my understanding, Wing Chun is not a h0mogeneous Kiu art eventhought Wing Chun is characterize as an Short Kiu Narrow stance art.

    So, what is the other way of catagolization which makes Wing Chun different to other art?

    The kid - mom Chain , or Zee-Mo lin Wan, or Main and subordinate chain effect.


    In a main and subordinate chain "style" of doing things. most of the time, there is one main and one subordinate. one arm "longer" then there other arm......
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  2. 09-21-2004, 09:51 AM #2
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    what the heck?

    why do you need three accounts to communicate with people on this forum?
    Thanks!
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  3. 09-21-2004, 10:12 AM #3
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    Just a necessary formality. Old Phenix and Hendrik are burned to ashes. And lo! Out from the ruin rise a yellow Pikachu... =)
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    Re: what the heck?

    Originally posted by Sandman2[Wing Chun]
    why do you need three accounts to communicate with people on this forum?
    Good question

    the old two exist because one doesnt work at my work due to gods' know happen and gene at one point was helping me.
    so I have to create another one for use at work.

    The new one because I want to get rid of the old two and consolidate into only one.


    If you like or can help me, delete the rest and left me with the pikachu .


    sometimes, things has to get more before it get less. I know a friend of mine have carried 4 different lines of phones in his office.
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  5. 09-21-2004, 10:21 AM #5
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    Originally posted by PaulH
    Just a necessary formality. Old Phenix and Hendrik are burned to ashes. And lo! Out from the ruin rise a yellow Pikachu... =)

    That is true too. hahahah. See An actor has to be able to take different roles.

    When Hendrik burn it becomes phenix, and when phenix burn it becomes the yellow pikachu.

    More happy everytime, more open hearted everytime. hahahahahaha

    You change your name to Happy. everytime people see you affirm everyone --- to be Happy.

    It is a LE or localization evolution taking place.
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  6. 09-21-2004, 10:55 AM #6
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    WC is a centered based method of fighting and cultivation.
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  7. 09-21-2004, 11:15 AM #7
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    Originally posted by PaulH
    WC is a centered based method of fighting and cultivation.
    And the AWARENESS continous to develop and GROW...
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  8. 09-21-2004, 11:55 AM #8
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    In many ways the philosophy of WC is very Buddhist where the end goal is the subtle and gradual yielding and losing of one's personality and consciousness to a greater cosmic consciousness. I prefer however more that of sensitive understanding, of letting go when you want to, and of cooperating with others if you so desire.

    P.S. Free to choose is what make us most human...
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  9. 09-21-2004, 05:57 PM #9
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    why do you need three accounts to communicate with people on this forum?
    just wondering why it takes 2 people and 6 post to answer that question.
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  10. 09-21-2004, 07:11 PM #10
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    Sir Loops-a-lot.

    Originally posted by yellowpikachu
    Where some explore and making claims about kiu Sau... long kiu, short kiu.......etc.

    In my understanding, Wing Chun is not a h0mogeneous Kiu art eventhought Wing Chun is characterize as an Short Kiu Narrow stance art.
    Now, the key phrase in this quote is:

    "In my understanding"

    IMO, the: "some explore and making claims about kiu Sau" is your very own yellowpikachu. It's claim is that Wing Chun is not a "h0mogeneous Kiu art". Yet It claims that Wing Chun originates from Fujian White Crane which has Kiu Sau concepts and training methods.

    On the other hand, yellowpikachu says: Wing Chun is characterize as an Short Kiu which basically says Wing Chun is a Kiu Art.

    In short:
    Wing Chun is not a h0mogeneous Kiu art

    and
    Wing Chun is characterize as an Short Kiu


    Something doesn't know what it's talking about... but then again, yellowpikachu's WHOLE post is qualified with:
    "In my understanding"
    so, no problem here!

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  11. 09-21-2004, 07:13 PM #11
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    Are you still in wonder? =D

    Happy Pikachu sings and dances, so I secretly enjoy giving him a funny post. Look, he actually laughed! =)

    P.S. As a disclaimer also, I have no interests to entangle myself with Hendrik's affairs. I just like listening to interesting older WC perspective.
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  12. 09-21-2004, 07:55 PM #12
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    Originally posted by PaulH
    Are you still in wonder? =D

    Happy Pikachu sings and dances, so I secretly enjoy giving him a funny post. Look, he actually laughed! =)

    P.S. As a disclaimer also, I have no interests to entangle myself with Hendrik's affairs. I just like listening to interesting older WC perspective.
    hendrik is long gone.
    you can always email the pikachu. hahahaha


    The more you listen to the older WC perspecitive the more you see the oldest is not that old at all, the linear vertical thinking doesnt cover the full view. reality is a paradox and some cant accept that.

    The Main and Subordinate chain action brought along four concepts. They are.....


    The pikachu sky earth human model, The pikachu SLT model, the pikachu Main-Subordinate model. those old grandfather such as GM Yip might not know Pikachu, but they will love pikachu once they see it. That sunny happy yellow pikachu. that is the grand child. Grandfather loves grandchild in the spring new year time.
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    WTF?!

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  14. 09-21-2004, 08:57 PM #14
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    The pikachu sky earth human model, The pikachu SLT model, the pikachu Main-Subordinate model. those old grandfather such as GM Yip might not know Pikachu, but they will love pikachu once they see it.
    Are you suggesting GM Ip Man was not a logical or critical thinker and what gives you this insight.
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    He may give you an answer but you'll still be left asking: WTF?
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