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    Question Different styles of Baji quan

    Hi Guys
    Can anyone explain the difference or thier experiences in the different styles of Baji.,,
    wu style baji, qiang(hard style) baji, huo baji , or Adam hsu( Liu Yun Chiao lineage)?
    Also explain, which ones are more internal, etc
    Thanks

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    All Li Shuwen descendants seem a little stiffer in there methods, Huo seem a little to lapse and Wu are a little more balance in approach
    :-)

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    Li style is soft, too. It is because they release Jing or Fa Jing at each end move. That is why there are stops and seems to be rigid. Each move still starts with softness or Chan. This is most apparent in Xiao Ba Ji. Kao Jing is very much stressed by Master Liu Yun Qiao.

    Here is a link provided by Count.

    Ba Ji 32 Shi

    Wu style practices smoothly and slowly first (storing Jing or Xu Jing) and then fast suddenly (Fa Jing).

    I practice both.

    Li style is from the Cang Zhou area.

    Wu style is from the Meng Cun area.

    Wu Tan Di Zi will say more.

    Last edited by SPJ; 06-10-2005 at 07:21 PM.

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    Isn't there a Zhang style as well?
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    SPJ who is your Wu Style teacher? which branch? old or new ?

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    http://www.wutangcenter.com/wt/index.html

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    Baji flavor of Liu Yun Qiaos's students, around 1978

    Go to the video gallary

    go to bottom of the page and click on:

    Old Footage of WuTang Martial Arts

    Opeinging, Liu's calligrpahy

    .37 Da Fan She (Big Spinning Wheel) 8 Step Praying Mantis

    .49 Six Harmony Mantis

    1.05 Mizong II (Lost Track)

    1.50 Kun Wu Two Man sword fight

    2:27 Lan Jie

    2.45 Lan Jie

    3:10 Baji Lian Huan (Linking form)

    3.50 Xiao Baji Jia

    4.40 Da Baji Jia

    5:55 Liu Da Kai (6 Big Opening) #1, #3, and #5


    Done in the 1970s in Taipei Taiwan for a Television program.

    Its a pretty good picture of the flavor of Wu Tan practitioners at that time.

    You'll need a QuickTime player to play the video (mp 4). I don't manage the web so I don't think I can be of much help here.
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    Baji Fight Footage

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ir0MWNtMv4

    Fudged up in my other post by not putting the link in. This is footage I havent seen on here before previously, with some well executed techniques.
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    I posted it before, but was mostly ignored Bad timing I guess! Cool footage though

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    Does not look like Baji to me.
    Which Baji Practitioner would possibly start an attack with a kick?

    If at all it's wushu baji.

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    I've yet to meet a baji guy that trained only in baji. A lot of baji quan guys aslo study pigua, and even other chang quan styles. What's your experience with baji quan?
    Last edited by B-Rad; 08-14-2007 at 02:05 PM.

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    BTW, "wushu" baji quan doesn't have side kicks either.

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    These are pretty interesting too, some nice throws:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krs6KWBZ_yg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ZTh0RDLu8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-7XxvlU3c

    Would like to see it with weight classes and head contact.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
    -Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship Fighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    These are pretty interesting too, some nice throws:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krs6KWBZ_yg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ZTh0RDLu8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-7XxvlU3c

    Would like to see it with weight classes and head contact.
    You realize those are works, right?

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    I don't care, there were still a few nice throws in there.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
    -Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship Fighting

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    Books On Baji

    Has anyone heard of or purchased these books by Peter Jaw on Baji?

    1. Ba Xi Jie Xi: A Talk On Rake Fist
    2. Baji 24 Hand Methods And Classics

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