Your penache for understatement is understated.Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Your penache for understatement is understated.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Banned
Thank you.
I really have got to take my English to the next level.
Resigned
Scott would just say I was spectacubating again...
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Scott has the boorish manners of a Yale man !Scott would just say I was spectacubating again...
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Cybernetic Polymath
lol!
What, no muscle lesson?
"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." -Cicero
Itinerant practitioner
1st video in thread = crap.
no one punches like that. ever. except for kungfu students making videos with slo-mo applications.
arms don't hang in the air on a thrown punch, ever.
nobody leaves their limb out to be taken and trapping is fantasy for the most part when you are not clinched already.
If you can do it, you got lucky.
If you can do it at least fairly consistently in response to a striking attack that is not choreographed and isn't using a compliant and 20lbs lighter than you opponent, well I would very much like to see that!
the form stuff is fine. it's just forms. doesn't really show any applications though.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Resigned
LOL! careful, you might get one...lol!
What, no muscle lesson?
Registered User
Is Baji considered a Shaolin style or belonging to the Internal group- Taiji, Bagua, XingYi, etc. and why?
Resigned
Registered User
That source is why I am asking.
Here is the sentence:
"The term baji comes from the Daoist classic, the Yijing (I-Ching), and signifies an "extension of all directions". In this case, it means "including everything" or "the universe.""
But Baji seems to be grouped with Shaolin more often... only a few sources show an "Internal" grouping.
Itinerant practitioner
The I Ching isn't Taoist in particular.
The idea of "internal" was made up by a guy in the late 1800's early 1900's and has since spiraled into a pile of crap nonsense so huge it gets addressed daily. Meanwhile, no one can accurately tell you what internal or external means because they don't know, will make up some reasons that seems logical or merely reiterate what they were told.
how can your innards function independently of you outers? They can't. You are a unit. A Martial system is a method. The whole body is employed in any martial method to achieve efficacy in martial ability.
nowadays, internal is for health and external is for fighting. which of course is a crock of crap, if the art can't be used for fighting, then it's not a martial art is it.
Last edited by David Jamieson; 05-04-2010 at 11:01 AM.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Registered User
Does it have source in "Chinese native or Shaman religion"? I don't recall it being associated with Buddhism or Zen before it was associated with Daoism.
Itinerant practitioner
It is a stand alone text that is quite ancient and isn't connected to a religious movement such as taoism or buddhism or mohism or any indigenous religion of China. It is more based in soothsaying, seeing and prophecy sort of stuff.
Kung Fu is good for you.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Quite correct, there are many definitions of internal and external and most of them pointless from a MA perspective.The I Ching isn't Taoist in particular.
The idea of "internal" was made up by a guy in the late 1800's early 1900's and has since spiraled into a pile of crap nonsense so huge it gets addressed daily. Meanwhile, no one can accurately tell you what internal or external means because they don't know, will make up some reasons that seems logical or merely reiterate what they were told.
how can your innards function independently of you outers? They can't. You are a unit. A Martial system is a method. The whole body is employed in any martial method to achieve efficacy in martial ability.
nowadays, internal is for health and external is for fighting. which of course is a crock of crap, if the art can't be used for fighting, then it's not a martial art is it.
Adam Hsu wrote an excellent article on that.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Registered User
Not sure why the rant, but ok. I guess I should have separated them by Shaolin/Wudang or Shaolin/Taiji, Bagua, Xing Yi, or whatever. Thank you.The I Ching isn't Taoist in particular.
The idea of "internal" was made up by a guy in the late 1800's early 1900's and has since spiraled into a pile of crap nonsense so huge it gets addressed daily. Meanwhile, no one can accurately tell you what internal or external means because they don't know, will make up some reasons that seems logical or merely reiterate what they were told.
how can your innards function independently of you outers? They can't. You are a unit. A Martial system is a method. The whole body is employed in any martial method to achieve efficacy in martial ability.
nowadays, internal is for health and external is for fighting. which of course is a crock of crap, if the art can't be used for fighting, then it's not a martial art is it.
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