Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[kwaichang]

TRue my mess up My computer sux at work and I couldnt see it well. KC

[Iron Palm]

http://youtu.be/OQ_Lj5p3iMA
8 animal another SD form take a look. KC

May I ask when and from whom you all learned the 8 animal and/or Dragon Bagua sets?

I learned both forms from David Soard, and he didn't move anything like any of the practicioners in the videos linked, at least not during instruction.

However, I ask because the video Kwaichang posted is by Dr. Jerry Alan Johnson, who is frequently referenced as a source of credibility at some of the Soard schools. The claim made is usually something along the lines of: Dr. Johnson is a highly respected authority on Bagua, and the Bagua he does is very similar to ours, so they must have a common, authentic source.

Given everything that has come to light lately, it would be interesting to hear how long these forms have been taught within SD. Dr. Johnson has published many books (and videos obviously as well), one dating to at least 1990: http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Chan...y+alan+johnson

[brucereiter]

http://youtu.be/OQ_Lj5p3iMA
8 animal another SD form take a look. KC

do you think this is the same 8 animal pakua that bill leonard and sin the teach?

[tattooedmonk]

May I ask when and from whom you all learned the 8 animal and/or Dragon Bagua sets?

I learned both forms from David Soard, and he didn't move anything like any of the practicioners in the videos linked, at least not during instruction.

However, I ask because the video Kwaichang posted is by Dr. Jerry Alan Johnson, who is frequently referenced as a source of credibility at some of the Soard schools. The claim made is usually something along the lines of: Dr. Johnson is a highly respected authority on Bagua, and the Bagua he does is very similar to ours, so they must have a common, authentic source.

Given everything that has come to light lately, it would be interesting to hear how long these forms have been taught within SD. Dr. Johnson has published many books (and videos obviously as well), one dating to at least 1990: http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Chan...y+alan+johnson

Dr. Jerry Allan Johnson is a very reliable source for knowledge...he is CYKFA BB # 74 http://www.chingyikungfu.com/index.php?m=5 He was recently awarded 5th degree BB http://www.chingyikungfu.com/index.php?m=51

If you look down the first list you will see my name # 102.

[tattooedmonk]

do you think this is the same 8 animal pakua that bill leonard and sin the teach?

He corrected himself...hey Bruce!

[sean_stonehart]

If you look down the first list you will see my name # 102.

How long did you study to become #102?

[bodhi warrior]

May I ask when and from whom you all learned the 8 animal and/or Dragon Bagua sets?

I learned both forms from David Soard, and he didn't move anything like any of the practicioners in the videos linked, at least not during instruction.

However, I ask because the video Kwaichang posted is by Dr. Jerry Alan Johnson, who is frequently referenced as a source of credibility at some of the Soard schools. The claim made is usually something along the lines of: Dr. Johnson is a highly respected authority on Bagua, and the Bagua he does is very similar to ours, so they must have a common, authentic source.

Given everything that has come to light lately, it would be interesting to hear how long these forms have been taught within SD. Dr. Johnson has published many books (and videos obviously as well), one dating to at least 1990: http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Chan...y+alan+johnson

I know the Jiang rongqiao form was taught prior to 1980.

[kwaichang]

I saw the 8 Animal Pa Kua in 91 in its entirety , I learned it in 2002. The Dragon was taught in 2001 I think cant really remember at work KC

[Syn7]

Stone , I will send you the guys name in a PM . KC

Why not here?

[themeecer]

http://youtu.be/OQ_Lj5p3iMA
8 animal another SD form take a look. KC

When did Gallagher start doing Pa Qua?

[sean_stonehart]

When did Gallagher start doing Pa Qua?

I wanna know what Pa Qua is....

[themeecer]

I wanna know what Pa Qua is....

It is correct way to spell this gay bagua crap some people type. Same with taiji .. it's tai chi.

It is about as annoying as hearing our president pronounce Pakistan as Pockeston.

[Syn7]

It is correct way to spell this gay bagua crap some people type. Same with taiji .. it's tai chi.

lol. I so hope you are kidding! Please tell me you are joking?

[themeecer]

lol. I so hope you are kidding! Please tell me you are joking?

No Syn7. Those were common English spellings for the words.

It is like when an American pronounces Paris as Paree. Freaking annoying.

Edit: You do realize there was no standardized way to spell these words when it first hit the US. In the early 80s when I learned these, these words were spelled as pa qua and tai chi here.

And yes the pronunciation is somewhere between kua, qua, and gua.

[Syn7]

The bastardization of proper names annoys the hell out of me. And Americans are the worst at that. Like droppin the I in aluminium is just lazy. Or saying Ceaser when the word is actually Caesar. I mean you can atleast try to say it properly.