Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[OTD]

Excerpt from Old Dutch East India Trading Journals

[Judge Pen]

Excerpt from Old Dutch East India Trading Journals

Interesting. Some verification of the The' family name in Indonesia as early as 1911.

[shen ku]

No one find any new photos

[bodhi warrior]

For those who want to know:

GM Wang Ziqiu (1862-1948), generation II ---> (pupils in / heir) Zheyuan Wang, Wang Zhexiao, Xuefu Ji (Chi Xiaofu/1890-1976), Xu Qiliang, Liu Hanqing, Liu Shupeng, Ceng Hanjun, Changmiao Wang, Wang Guilun, Yongan Luo, Yu Dingwo, Wang Guixiang, (third generation).

GM Wang Zheyuan, generation III ---> (pupils in / heir) Su Zhongyi, Zuoquan Lai, Chen Maoren, Sun Lianjun, Lin Xinhong, Su Fuyuan, Zhou Chongyao, Zhihan Fu, Cai Jinhui, Li Fushun, (generation IV) .

Master Su Fuyuan, generation IV ---> (pupils in) Yingsiung Huang, Li Chingyuan, ... etc.. (Generation V).

Interesting to see chi shou fu and liu shu peng in there.

[Leto]

Great! Where did that come from? So there are two of the teachers from Hiang's school's lineage, jives with what it says on their website and we've got a lineage for at least the black tiger and probably other Shantung material (lian wu zhang?) Liu ShuPeng is listed there, described by Hiang as "spirit whip hand" who specialized in the tai peng system...wonder if the Tai Peng is then a Shantung system, or a separate lineage altogether. I also wonder if the tang lang comes from this Shantung lineage. Now if we could only find something similar for Ie Chang Ming and/or the The family lineage. Based on the Netherlands site, it seems like their style would be mainly monkey and/or mantis. But Sin and Hiang don't seem to have much monkey.

[bodhi warrior]

To expand insight and maintain friendships between martial artists, exchange students began to visit one another's martial art schools.

They included:


Kwi Guan from Bandung: He was one of Suhu's saudara seperguruan
[school fraternity]. He was often asked to teach in Bogor.


Cua Kek Kiong: from the Ceng Bu Hwe school, Jakarta


Tjio Swi Hong: who was known for his Shan Tung
[a Chinese martial art] knowledge.




Lo Ban Teng: a Chinese kung fu master from Jakarta.


Mr. Suhaya, H. Dulhamid: from Cimande [a pencak silat style]

This was taken from:

Biography of the Grand Master
of PGB Bangau Putih
Suhu Subur Rahardja

Kwi guan, another teacher of master Hiang.

[Leto]

To expand insight and maintain friendships between martial artists, exchange students began to visit one another's martial art schools.

They included:


Cua Kek Kiong: from the Ceng Bu Hwe school, Jakarta

Cua (Tjoa) Kek Kiong is the author of the Shantung Black Tiger book, in conjunction with Draeger.

[bawang]

i think the indonesian shaolin do looks just as sh1tty as sin the shaolin do.

[hskwarrior]

i think the indonesian shaolin do looks just as sh1tty as sin the shaolin do.

They're still better than what you're learning.

[bawang]

They're still better than what you're learning.

i learn from green grass monk. he taught me the real hung sing. i accept jesus christ into my life.

[hskwarrior]

i learn from green grass monk. he taught me the real hung sing. i accept jesus christ into my life.

yea i know. i think you hung hisu kwan reborn

[hiphippo]

Hi everybody. New member here and new to martial arts in general. Judge Penn or any Knoxville natives still hanging around? Recently started training in the area and am enjoying the classes a bunch.

[kwaichang]

Yeah man where are you training and what style? KC

[hiphippo]

Traditional Shaolin is the name of the school - my teacher's name is Daniel Mattson. From what I've read he studied under Elder Master Gary Mullins in the Shaolin-Do system. However, Mullins name doesn't appear to be listed on the Shaolin-Do website with other masters' names. I know in the past (perhaps still?) there has been a lot of controversy surrounding the lineage of Shaolin-Do and the claims made by its' Grandmaster. I just want to state that this isn't really a concern of mine and I'm simply bringing it up for the sake of curiosity.

I suppose I'm simply asking if Gary Mullins and those under him are still part of the Shaolin-Do system or if they've perhaps tried to distance themselves from it somehow? Also, what is the general state of the Shaolin-Do system as of present? I could ask my teacher but I have not been there long and I feel it would be somewhat disrespectful.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to discussing Kung Fu with everyone on this forum and hopefully learning a lot and making some new friends. Take care.

[shen ku]

look here shaolingrandmaster.com master mullins is listed here, he is not listed on the shaolin do association website, that is just a smaller group within a group.