Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[kwaichang]

Ok so let me get this straight, You think its OK to learn / steal from You Tube but not from someone who may have learned from Vids or whatever? so Stealing is Ok as long as it fits your own definition of what is right or wrong.? Things that make you go Hummmmmmmm

[bawang]

Ok so let me get this straight, You think its OK to learn / steal from You Tube but not from someone who may have learned from Vids or whatever? so Stealing is Ok as long as it fits your own definition of what is right or wrong.? Things that make you go Hummmmmmmm

depends on how badly you want the real shaolin.

[JSE]

lern fram youtoob mang

Ok so petty bickering aside, serious question time. In your opinions,what is the definitive "real shaolin" Only Song Shan? And yes I know this has been asked 1000 times, but I would like to hear your thoughts. If I do a search for "real kung fu" I find a lot of Jake Mace's vids. @_@

And that is great and all for forms, but I am not interested in that. I want application and fighting techniques/strategy. Given that criteria, what is real Shaolin? I know I can go to the gym and put in the work and eventually get it, but I believe this is where an instructor becomes necessity. Someone to watch and critique. YouTube never talks back to me no matter how much I yell at it.

[MasterKiller]

I disagree. Assuming that fake shaolin can be effective in self-defense (and SD is as many have said and those who have met me outside of the forum will concede) then I'd rather be able to protect myself then do the real stuff poorly and get hurt in a fight.

It's like comparing spam to a diseased cow. I'd rather eat good spam if those were my only two choices.

SPAM is actually pork, btw. It's short for Shoulder Pork and Ham.

[bawang]

Ok so petty bickering aside, serious question time. In your opinions,what is the definitive "real shaolin" Only Song Shan?

only song shan. FACT.

And that is great and all for forms, but I am not interested in that. I want application and fighting techniques/strategy.

now that you found out your forms were all worthless fakes, of course ur "not interested". it lessens the pain of being someones cash cow. sin the built a life of luxury and easy living from your faith, hope, dreams, and hard work.

[pazman]

Ok so let me get this straight, You think its OK to learn / steal from You Tube but not from someone who may have learned from Vids or whatever? so Stealing is Ok as long as it fits your own definition of what is right or wrong.? Things that make you go Hummmmmmmm

There's nothing wrong with learning from youtube and books if you want.

There's something incredibly wrong with learning from books, then charging a lot of money at a seminar, claiming that its "Ancient Shaolin Tai Chi" or whatever, and then asking your students not to teach it to others without permission.

Since Sin The taught this way, it is very revealing of his own opinion of the stuff he learned in Indonesia.

[kwaichang]

We know GM The learned something in Indonesia, at one point his skill level exhibited that , whiles others will argue that point. So if what he learned the way he learned it is being taught , and he added to it , then What? So i feel he wanted to make money and increase what was offered. But I do know that there are more than one Monastary listed , so does that mean that the arts studied in the other temples isnt "real" Shaolin.

[MasterKiller]

But I do know that there are more than one Monastary listed , so does that mean that the arts studied in the other temples isnt "real" Shaolin.

Well, yeah. By definition, Wudang is not Shaolin, Omei is not Shaolin, etc.

That's just common sense, bro.

[Snipsky]

Things that make you go Hummmmmmmm

see, you can't even get THAT right. it's HMMMMMMMMMMMM not HUMMMMMMMMMM

[JSE]

now that you found out your forms were all worthless fakes, of course ur "not interested". it lessens the pain of being someones cash cow. sin the built a life of luxury and easy living from your faith, hope, dreams, and hard work.

I would disagree that they are worthless but that's not the point. All forms have their purpose. For me it is a cardio workout and leg/transition training.

I was not interested in forms to begin with. Never have been in any of the styles I have trained in. Can you learn to fight from them, sure. But in my opinion the best way to learn is by doing. Not mimicking it.

But that still doesn't answer my question. Application and fighting wise, what is "real Shaolin"?

[JSE]

Well, yeah. By definition, Wudang is not Shaolin, Omei is not Shaolin, etc.

That's just common sense, bro.

I should have elaborated on that. Only material CREATED there, Not material that was brought in from the outside and practiced.

[bawang]

But that still doesn't answer my question. Application and fighting wise, what is "real Shaolin"?

anything that's from song shan.

[Judge Pen]

SPAM is actually pork, btw. It's short for Shoulder Pork and Ham.

Then the analogy is only more appropriate.

[MasterKiller]

But I do know that there are more than one Monastary listed , so does that mean that the arts studied in the other temples isnt "real" Shaolin.

I should have elaborated on that. Only material CREATED there, Not material that was brought in from the outside and practiced.

LOL. Is KC posting from two different accounts??

[Snipsky]