Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[jit fu]

bql,

obviously you don't know. how about the proper care for the altar? 3 branches of clf. the main branch is from king mui, futsan hung sing from there, buk sing from futsan hung sing (developed further by ggm tam saam). clf created from 3 systems, developed by founder chan heung. a cohesive and complete system. we all have gwa, sow, chop,all hands are shared by all 3 lines as we are all from same family, some have specific ways of doing them. futsan hung sing doesnt teach 2 sets of bak mei, cha kuen, 2 different tai chi's, bagua, hsing yi. buk sing clf doesnt either. nor does chan family. clf is taught as clf. nice try tho.

[jit fu]

bql,

its not a secret kung fu handshake, but a cultural thing. things you dont know or have.

[Judge Pen]

How do you shake the hand of a master from Indonesia?

[jit fu]

jp,

it's a cultural thing, if he's from china then i can help you out. i'll clarify a CHINESE master, as i practice tcma.

[Lamassu]

bql,

obviously you don't know. how about the proper care for the altar? 3 branches of clf. the main branch is from king mui, futsan hung sing from there, buk sing from futsan hung sing (developed further by ggm tam saam). clf created from 3 systems, developed by founder chan heung. a cohesive and complete system. we all have gwa, sow, chop,all hands are shared by all 3 lines as we are all from same family, some have specific ways of doing them. futsan hung sing doesnt teach 2 sets of bak mei, cha kuen, 2 different tai chi's, bagua, hsing yi. buk sing clf doesnt either. nor does chan family. clf is taught as clf. nice try tho.

snob.

[jit fu]

snob.

dolt

[Baqualin]

bql,

obviously you don't know. how about the proper care for the altar? 3 branches of clf. the main branch is from king mui, futsan hung sing from there, buk sing from futsan hung sing (developed further by ggm tam saam). clf created from 3 systems, developed by founder chan heung. a cohesive and complete system. we all have gwa, sow, chop,all hands are shared by all 3 lines as we are all from same family, some have specific ways of doing them. futsan hung sing doesnt teach 2 sets of bak mei, cha kuen, 2 different tai chi's, bagua, hsing yi. buk sing clf doesnt either. nor does chan family. clf is taught as clf. nice try tho.

BINGO.....THREE SYSTEMS into one complete system......soup....all same family....northern & southern

Also claimed as a traditional Shaolin Martial Art

[Judge Pen]

jp,

it's a cultural thing, if he's from china then i can help you out. i'll clarify a CHINESE master, as i practice tcma.

I've met masters of CMA (outside of SD) that are not chinese. If its a cultural thing then it isn't a martial thing (although there may be some overlap).

[KungFu Student]

The real question is how a handshake makes you into a superior martial artist?

[Lamassu]

The real question is how a handshake makes you into a superior martial artist?

It doesn't, but you appear like you're validating your authority to bash someone's martial art you know nothing about. You know, a snob.

[sean_stonehart]

I hate posting like this but it's the easiest way to make sure I answer your questions... sorry about the posting style...

Sorry Sean but your list is very incomplete..

No worries it is what it is based on what I saw, experienced, read in a book & still see on websites ... so what'd I miss??

I know you studied SD,

For a minute or two...

but...do you study at my school

Not without a helluva commute time...

do you take classes under me

See above

how do you know what and how we teach

I've seen students & seniors students from Lexington

the FOUNDATION is there for all 3

Where? When is it taught? Day one?

form wise Hsing I & Pakua we have the most

Most what?

but the training and FOUNDATIONS are there for all three.

Again, where?

If you think you just go to class and learn forms, your way off.
BQ

Oh no not at all. It was SD's attempt at teaching forms from styles it has no concept of a proper training regimine in ... unless teachers went elsewhere to pick up pointers & methods lacking in the existing curriculum or being held back until reaching a "master" level.

[Baqualin]

I hate posting like this but it's the easiest way to make sure I answer your questions... sorry about the posting style...




No worries it is what it is based on what I saw, experienced, read in a book & still see on websites ... so what'd I miss??



For a minute or two...



Not without a helluva commute time...



See above



I've seen students & seniors students from Lexington



Where? When is it taught? Day one?



Most what?



Again, where?



Oh no not at all. It was SD's attempt at teaching forms from styles it has no concept of a proper training regimine in ... unless teachers went elsewhere to pick up pointers & methods lacking in the existing curriculum or being held back until reaching a "master" level.

Sorry Sean....I'm at work like the rest of us and blown out ....will respond later today.
Take Care BQ

Will respond to Shane also...got to go.

[sean_stonehart]

BINGO.....THREE SYSTEMS into one complete system......soup....all same family....northern & southern

Also claimed as a traditional Shaolin Martial Art

Ummm... yeah... 3 different styles... combined into a single, cohesive style with unified practices on everything from start to finish. Not a little here done like this... a little here done like that... a little bit extra for good measure. Everything from day 1 is the same in CLF.

Also... not passing itself off as something it's not. It's Southern Shaolin MA.

Chan Heung's teachers, Chan Yuen Woo, Li Yau San & Choy Fook were all Shaolin trained... maybe even a real Shaolin monk!!!! But none ever claimed to be "the Grandmaster" or other such stuff. They were Shaolin trained fighters.

That's about as far as that fish can go.

[sean_stonehart]

Sorry Sean....I'm at work like the rest of us and blown out ....will respond later today.
Take Care BQ

Will respond to Shane also...got to go.

Me too... have fun!

[jit fu]

BINGO.....THREE SYSTEMS into one complete system......soup....all same family....northern & southern

Also claimed as a traditional Shaolin Martial Art

i'll write this reaaaallll slow for you. chan heung had 3 teachers, he took what he had learned and combined what he thought was the best that the 3 offered. codified it into 1 comprehensive system with him (chan heung) being the founder. he created the system from the knowledge pool he had . ergo, everything done in clf is clf. he didn't take li yau san's system and teach 2-3 forms from it, nor did he take a form from chan yuen woo and teach it, he created his own and gave it the ging, stances, hands accross the board, ie he codified it so it could be constantly refined. he however didnt create clf then decide to buddy with his contemporaries and add a few forms from there systems to make his system grow more.clf teaches clf forms, clf techniques, clf history, clf internal, clf chi gung. it didnt need any other outside input.