since you are Shaolin Do, i don't think anyone is going to believe you.most people don't apply the proper mechanics involved to achieve desired results....
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since you are Shaolin Do, i don't think anyone is going to believe you.most people don't apply the proper mechanics involved to achieve desired results....
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makes sense you have had more exposer to master mike. mine is a bit of both of them in addition to a few outside influences.
once you get the idea of the intention of weight transfer of each movement i think it is easier to find lots of applications from the same movement.
the ideas cmc had about the wrist are valuable but i think it should be varied depending on the intention you are working on at the moment.
i think general practice should take 3 speeds for yang 64 form.
very slow around 20 or more minutes. medium speed around 5-7 minutes and random speed transitioning from fast to slow adding snap and speed at times around 3-4 minutes
i think section 1 is a good reference sine it it similar in almost all methods of yang tai chi chuan and therefore easier to compare.
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Shaolin Dynasty can correct me if I'm wrong, here. I think what you are interpreting as an "exploratory jab", is actually one of the very elements Shaolin Dynasty has demonstrated in his videos and articles on the 10 Elements of CLF, Na (or Chuen Na, for the complete name). It's a bridging technique. The moment you touch, you can try to get a sense of their energy. Even though Ving Tsun is well known for Chi Sao, and their Mon Sao Asking Hands strategy, CLF does this via sometimes trying to create a bridge. So, to me, that is not an unidentified exploratory jab not found in forms, it is the element Chuen Na used to create a bridge, which we have all over the place in CLF forms.
I'm not sure what you are exactly getting at with regards to your beginner/advanced inquiry. What these guys were doing was demonstrating quite effectively the core principles of their respective arts at a high contact level and high resistance level. That was the whole point of what Shaolin Dynasty was getting at - there are core principles in CLF learned in a progressive structure that are done as drills and forms, and are soundly applied in different sparring formats.
Speaking of different formats, just for fun, here's a video of Sifu Phillip Ng doing a friendly sparring match with a Hung Ga guy on a TV show.
Sifu Phillip is using the CLF Chop Choy drilling method Shaolin Dynasty has provided a clips of. The Ng Family is very modest about their achievements, but I think it helps to know that Sifu Phillip is one of the founders of the Ng Family Chinese Martial Arts Association, and he is a highly sought out fight choreographer and stunt-actor in Hong Kong, and has worked with many of the heroes of the Kung-Fu film genre.
Anyway, here's the friendly sparring match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsuNE...bF9l_XWVsNoj_Q
A little peek into his involvement in the Hong Kong Action Film industry, here's the trailer of a film he's in called Once Upon a Time in Shanghai, Yuen Woo Ping as action director:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvXMolColkg
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The 10 Elements of Choy Lay Fut:
Kum, Na, Gwa, Sau, Chop, Pow, Kup, Biu, Ding, Jong
The 13 Principles of Taijiquan:
Ward Off, Roll Back, Press, Push, Pluck, Elbow, Shoulder, Split, Forward, Back, Left, Right, Central Equilibrium
And it doesn't hurt to practice stuff from:
Mounts, Guards, and Side Mounts!
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Yutyeesam,
I hope you or shaolindynasty didn't take my comments or inquiry as any slight to Ng family CMA. I thought the clips were quite good, and I'm aware of the stellar and well earned reputation of Ng Family CMA. In the sparring clip, I was puzzled about obvious restrictions that were on the two while they sparred and it seemed to me that they were both young and still advancing in the art. I was impressed with both of the participants control, discipline and techniqe in the match.
As far as the jab, I understanding bridging techniques and how a jab can lend itself to that. I do that myself when I spar, but to my eye it looked like the CLF student was trying to use the jab to look for opening in the VT's center line defense. The VT student was very disciplined in maintaining center-line control (a hallmark to their core principles) and the outside in techniques of the CLF student became more effective as he moved laterally and tried to avoid both the VT's students center-line control.
Which was why I was also asking about the SanDa rules. In addition to the jab's I saw in sparring, some of the training videos showed some very nice drill work for Western Boxing techniques. I was curious how much traditional strikes get mixed with western techniques in SanDa as taught and trained in that video. That's a larger conversation (with echos of all sparring looks like kick-boxing) but the use of boxing technique was very apparent to me in the video.
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I see what you're saying. Again, Shaolin Dynasty can correct me if I'm wrong here, but it's less about the specific technique, but more about the concept that lies underneath the technique. If you look at Shaolin Dynasty's posts and article, there's a concept called "Gating". You use a technique aimed at a particular gate/zone of the body to draw reactions. Ping Chop (level straight punch) is a common one that does it, and Ping Chop is in our drills and forms.
So, in CLF, the concept of Gating is canonized.
The 10 Elements of Choy Lay Fut:
Kum, Na, Gwa, Sau, Chop, Pow, Kup, Biu, Ding, Jong
The 13 Principles of Taijiquan:
Ward Off, Roll Back, Press, Push, Pluck, Elbow, Shoulder, Split, Forward, Back, Left, Right, Central Equilibrium
And it doesn't hurt to practice stuff from:
Mounts, Guards, and Side Mounts!
Austin Kung-Fu Academy
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