View Poll Results: What to do about the 'Is Shaolin-Do for real?' thread

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  • Unlock IS-Dfr. Merge all S-D threads together so it clears 1000 posts!

    22 38.60%
  • Unlock IS-Dfr. Let all the S-D threads stand independently.

    13 22.81%
  • Keep IS-Dfr locked down. All IS-Dfr posters deserved to be punished.

    5 8.77%
  • Delete them all. Let Yama sort them out.

    17 29.82%
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Thread: Is Shaolin-Do for real?

  1. #15016
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    Benevolent dictatorship is the best system anyways! Democracy is overrated.
    Agreed, at least **** gets done in a benevolent dictatorship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    dude - what r u trying to do? Gene basically told u that if u KEEP whining he won't re-open the thread - so just STFU already, and pray by Monday AM he forgets your entire diatribe!





    people seem to forget that this forum is a privately owned enterprise; while we can entreat, cajole or bemuse to get what we want, it's all at the pleasure of your whims because, well, just because! but this is what makes it fun...
    It's no different than when you come to my home. Act the way I want you to act or you will be ejected. Or worse. If it's really asked for, I'll give it. Fair has nothing to do with it and justice is given at my leisure.

    Why should this be any different?

    I get the democracy thing, I tried that too. But I didn't actually believe it, It was just a failed attempt at manipulation. That's the fun part. Behavioral sciences are fun!!!

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    Watched Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Interesting Parallel, so I will say no more and hope all will see what is going on here, but remember with out all of us the Forum would not exist, it would be empty and Void. Much like our words , that we think have so much meaning when we say them. KC
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaichang View Post
    Watched Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Interesting Parallel, so I will say no more and hope all will see what is going on here, but remember with out all of us the Forum would not exist, it would be empty and Void. Much like our words , that we think have so much meaning when we say them. KC


    Most of us knew from the get go that this was not a democracy. Those who assumed it was a democracy are some "entitled" type cats.


    Gene can, and he did. Deal with it. You have no say in the matter. You can only make it worse.

    Oh, and the word "forum" does NOT imply democracy. It can be democratic in some ways, like a town hall meeting where a certain amount of people get to have their say. But then this is not a public gov sponsored forum. It's a private forum that ALLOWS you to participate at their discretion, not yours.
    Last edited by Syn7; 10-05-2012 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    To be honest, I closed it on a whim. And I may re-open it on a whim later. If that bothers you, perhaps you have a misguided idea of what this forum is.

    It may surprise you all to learn that I don't actually receive that many formal complaints. We get about one every week or two. And most of them come from the same individual (who is hopefully reading this and now realizes that he's the only person complaining so much). Now, mind you, there are some complaints that are PMed directly to a specific forum mod so I might not see those, although they are usually cc-ed to me.
    So I would think it's best to work directly with the specific forum mod. Is there a list somewhere of who mods which forum?

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    Mk

    Probably is the SD Mod but there have been many c/o him he stirs the pot more than fixing the problem. Then this happens. I guess we all need a babysitter right ? Not KC
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    Talking Yin*yang

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Noob View Post
    So there's no standard?

    Seriously, if you get a complaint, why not warn the user who drove the complaint or, better yet, since, as has been discussed on these fora before, we're fairly troll-tolerant here, why not just admonish the complainer to brush up on their keyboard-fu and not be inflamed by trolls?

    I'm not crying; I'm asking what makes this not purely arbitrary? Seems to me you close a thread if the thread is, on the whole, offensive or of an unacceptable nature and not because an individual posted something on a thread that illicited a complaint.

    There are mods on this board who shamelessly troll and who call people inflamatory names, even noobs who've been here only once or twice. All manner of flame wars go on here. Near porn gets posted here regularly. I'm not complaining about any of it. My complaint is that the shutting down of a thread, which has some good stuff in it despite the reparte of the last couple of days, seems really arbitrary given what goes on here on a day to day basis. If you want to be arbitrary, I guess that's your right as the owner of the board but, if that's not your intent, you should either unlock it or be able to say why, in the case-by-case basis system, the complaint necessitated locking the thread.
    That thread sucked big weenie! Should not have been dominating the Real Shaolin TCMA forum for as long as it did. Thank Buddha.

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    I'm the one that complained.

    Not enough cowbell.
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    Hey Gene,

    If you do unlock it...

    Is there any chance you could move it to another forum, like 'other related arts'. I think it has now been conclusively proved that it is not Shaolin Temple Material. That thread is always at the top of the list, so you know, its kind of mildly, vaguely annoying. It vexes me.

  10. #15025
    Quote Originally Posted by RenDaHai View Post
    Hey Gene,

    If you do unlock it...

    Is there any chance you could move it to another forum, like 'other related arts'. I think it has now been conclusively proved that it is not Shaolin Temple Material. That thread is always at the top of the list, so you know, its kind of mildly, vaguely annoying. It vexes me.
    FWIW I concur. The thread is an eyesore, and has nothing to do with Shaolin IMO.

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    "shhh, only dreams now"

    I seriously lol'd at that. Woke my wife up.

    That thread had a good run. Always twirling, spinning, whirling into something or other....
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaichang View Post
    Probably is the SD Mod but there have been many c/o him he stirs the pot more than fixing the problem. Then this happens. I guess we all need a babysitter right ? Not KC
    So MK is the Shaolin Kung Fu forum mod?

    Quote Originally Posted by RenDaHai View Post
    Hey Gene,

    If you do unlock it...

    Is there any chance you could move it to another forum, like 'other related arts'. I think it has now been conclusively proved that it is not Shaolin Temple Material. That thread is always at the top of the list, so you know, its kind of mildly, vaguely annoying. It vexes me.
    Hate to be a buzzkill, but that's not really an accurate statement. While Sin The' did admit to creating lower belt material himself (including short kata and some longer kata) there is still a lot of material above that rank. What we know for sure is that he learned from GM Ie who was a native of China and claimed to have trained with monks from the temple, including the now infamous hairy monk Su Kong Tai Djinn. With GM Ie and Tai Djinn dead and with the current evidence that's been shared publicly, it's pretty much come down to hearsay on actual ties to the temple. I agree the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, so there is still a lot to establish, but that is a lot different from a statement like "it has now been conclusively proved it [all SD material] is not Shaolin Temple Material." I'm sure a lot of other "true TCMA" out there have tenuous connections to the temple as well.

    In any case, put the thread where you will. Those interested in SD will continue to post and discuss. Gene has already established this forum is a benevolent dictatorship, so where he chooses to put the post is representative of his will, not necessarily the will of the people

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    "shhh, only dreams now"

    I seriously lol'd at that. Woke my wife up.

    That thread had a good run. Always twirling, spinning, whirling into something or other....
    Like a discombobulated Swirling Dervish Malcontent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2AI8r4q8V8
    Last edited by PalmStriker; 10-07-2012 at 08:34 AM.

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    I love when people get upset over being "mistreated" on a private website, and start crying into the Constitution, like they had just been thrown into a Burmese prison.

    Holy hell, I thought KF was a man's art, but some folks here are crying like whiny, snively, sand-in-the-vagina *****es.

    Gene could delete this entire forum and replace it with a poorly drawn panda if he wanted. And it likely would have little impact on KFM's sales.
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    Dictator

    Or is it a Dic tator , either way it is still a Dictatorship. i fear that KFM will go the way of BBM {Black belt Mag} and include all that MMA crap. and sell out for the almighty Dollar. Too bad. karate Illustrated, Stars, Mag and many other defunct Mags sold out for that type of stuff instead of staying true to what they are supposed to be True to, The spreading of the word of Kung Fu. So lets see what happens ? also, If this forum is public then that is who should say what is closed or not otherwise you can own what ever you want but without the Public it wont exist Long ? KC
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