Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[Judge Pen]

Actually, there are plenty of people that post in the Shaolin Forum that have spent significant time in China and can speak the language. Their posts are a treasure trove of authentic information on real, traditional gongfu. Bawang's posts, even when he is trolling, are incredibly insightful. "Shaolin Do" rolls up and wants a piece of the action, calling themselves authentic when they are not, appropriating other's traditions...well, it's really ****ing disrespectful. Long gone are the days when people thought that this stuff was hidden and inaccessible.

There is no doubt that The learned "something in Indonesia," but to call himself grandmaster, call his art Shaolin, and put himself out as some authority on martial arts is bull****.

I agree 100%. Now my goal is to figure out, as much as possible, what that "something" actually is.

[Judge Pen]

clothes obviously matter to you shaolin doers or you would not insist on wear the karate gi.

but you do it for evil twisted reason.

Not all school wear gis. The clothes don't matter.

[Judge Pen]

I'm still curious about this because no one ever responded.

I don't know. Sin The was apparently making stuff up as he went (including the name).

[bawang]

I don't know. Sin The was apparently making stuff up as he went (including the name).

then why are you defending him if you ackowledge this

[Lucas]

I don't know. Sin The was apparently making stuff up as he went (including the name).

oh gotcha. i always wondered where the shaolin part came from.

[kwaichang]

We have said this before that is a name he gave to the art . when he started teaching. and later. KC

[hskwarrior]

any kung fu school wearing a karate gi, does karate bows, and attempts to perform kung fu with complete karate flavor.....................is SHAOLIN DO.

[pazman]

I agree 100%. Now my goal is to figure out, as much as possible, what that "something" actually is.

It's called buying a phrase book and a plane ticket. That's what I did, as have others on this forum. Best decision of my life.

Going to another country and learning some martial arts is not some exotic, mysterious thing.

[sanjuro_ronin]

oh gotcha. i always wondered where the shaolin part came from.

Many japanese systems use the japanese versions of shaolin:
Shorinji-kempo
Shorinji-ryu
Shorin-ryu
To name just a few.
No need real need to make it "shaolin karate", which is just mixing two "languages" for no reason.
Shorinji Karate is the correct way.

[pazman]

Many japanese systems use the japanese versions of shaolin:
Shorinji-kempo
Shorinji-ryu
Shorin-ryu
To name just a few.
No need real need to make it "shaolin karate", which is just mixing two "languages" for no reason.
Shorinji Karate is the correct way.

And just to emphasize, those schools were named to give respect to Shaolin, not imply a lineage and assert authority.

[sanjuro_ronin]

And just to emphasize, those schools were named to give respect to Shaolin, not imply a lineage and assert authority.

On the average yes, though there is the "lineage issues'" of the Shorinji-kempo under Doshin so.
Shorinji-ryu Karate-do ( various branches by the way)claims a shaolin lineage but only in the most GENERAL of ways.

[Kellen Bassette]

Many japanese systems use the japanese versions of shaolin:
Shorinji-kempo
Shorinji-ryu
Shorin-ryu
To name just a few.
No need real need to make it "shaolin karate", which is just mixing two "languages" for no reason.
Shorinji Karate is the correct way.

I was going to mention Shorin Ryu to see what people thought of "Shaolin Style" Karate, but you beat me to it...

[Crushing Step]

I also have a Mantis Penetrating Hammer form that is much like others I've seen.

Likely Cha Chuy / Chop Choy / Tsaab Tsui = Piercing/Stabbing Hammer or more often translated as Piercing/Stabbing Fist

I'd be interested in seeind the SD version.

[Kellen Bassette]

On the average yes, though there is the "lineage issues'" of the Shorinji-kempo under Doshin so.
Shorinji-ryu Karate-do ( various branches by the way)claims a shaolin lineage but only in the most GENERAL of ways.

A lot of Okinawan Karate styles claims Shaolin lineage. Karate came from Te, Te came from Kung Fu, (generally of Fujian origin,) most of those Kung Fu styles claim the Shaolin Temple in their history. The "everything comes from Shaolin" idea....

[tattooedmonk]

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