Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[Judge Pen]

I reviewed my DVD of the Hua 2 man set and it is just about verbatim. very few differences. if any worth mentioning KC

Their drop kicks are different. We do more of a break-fall instead of turning the body and catching the body with the hands/wrists.

[kwaichang]

It again and the drop kicks as I was taught it are like flying side kicks but a drop to the mat during it. ???? we saying the same thing ??? KC

[kwaichang]

Hey guys I have 2 forms on a dvd and i need to down load them so I can put them on here any ideas? KC

[sean_stonehart]

Youtube... go with what works.

[Judge Pen]

It again and the drop kicks as I was taught it are like flying side kicks but a drop to the mat during it. ???? we saying the same thing ??? KC

We are. In that video, they are turning their body to a push-up position to cath themselves instead of droping onto the side.

[hskwarrior]

the fact that people are continuously discussing and reviewing material from DVD's is straight up disgusting.

[Empty_Cup]

the fact that people are continuously discussing and reviewing material from DVD's is straight up disgusting.

Would you prefer we rap and make youtube videos about them?

[kwaichang]

I have DVD's of all my forms so I can reference them as needed. If I am going to C/C I like to reference a Vid of the form so I dont make errors in my ststements. I have usually practiced my forms I have on DVD either hundreds or perhaps a Thousand times. KC

[hskwarrior]

[kungfujunky]

HSK again adds so much value to the discussion.

[Judge Pen]

This presents an interesting discussion. How does one keep notes on forms? Traditionally it was expressed in lyrics where you are supposed to know the technique of each expression. More detailed notes were kept by a student to help them remember the flow and technique of a form. Now that technology allows us to record information freely, doesn't it stand to reason that people will have their material recorded to help them put some of the pieces together? Or is that somehow an affront to traditional methods?

If a purest thinks that recording and review of your material on video is not favorable, then how do they recall material that they need to brush up on? Are notes ok? Diagrams? Lyrics?

I also find it interesting that the objector to that idea probably has more youtube videos posted than anyone else that posts on this forum. Granted it is not complete forms, but I wonder what the intent of those videos are if not to help his students remeber proper flow, application and technique.

[kwaichang]

Some teachers say Ie Liu Hua Chien , Ar Liu Hua Chien, and some say 1st Bookof Hua or 2nd Book of Hua. Is that because it was passed on as a Book to students? Learn to practice and practice to learn. KC

[hskwarrior]

HSK again adds so much value to the discussion.

i don't add much to this thread because i am not skilled in book fu nor video fu. I am the unfortunate todai who got suckered into learning from some guy in a garage whose lineage begin in some southern city of china. i'm not worthy in the presence of the book fu and vid fu clans of shaolin gung fu.

[bodhi warrior]

Some teachers say Ie Liu Hua Chien , Ar Liu Hua Chien, and some say 1st Bookof Hua or 2nd Book of Hua. Is that because it was passed on as a Book to students? Learn to practice and practice to learn. KC

Probably because that's how Cai Longyun presented them. He wrote the book on the 4 roads of hua and 2 two man sets. There are 13 sets in hua quan if I'm not mistaken. We know 6. The exact six published by Cai longyun.

[kwaichang]

Have you seen the Hua forms you speak of? Curious as to the similarities and when the books were issued etc. How does that correlate to the teaching of the Hua's in SD? KC