No , you made it sound like it was some secret hand shake.Originally Posted by jit fu
Do you know what tradition or traditional actually means??? These are modern traditions that you speak of and really have nothing to do with the arts.
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No , you made it sound like it was some secret hand shake.
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Yes, yes.really, good you know a few chinese people, would they happen to be sifu's? been in the chinese community much? weekend trips to chinatown don't count.
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just like you train under a clf teacher last 6 months...right?
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WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? Other people after him have though. I do not think you know very well the actual history of the Shaolin Temples. CLF is A HYBRID SYSTEM and not purely northern or southern And actually where it was created is not actually in the South.are you dense? after chan heung created clf from his 3 systems he had learned, that was it. no more. he didn't add tam tui, hua, look boon dim gwun ect. thats the point. he created his sysytem and taught it. he did not add forms from other styles after he created his finished product.
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hang on, i'll be right back i just popped a stitch from laughing too hard
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please show proof...who added what form from another system to clf?
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Answers, please.
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It appears that Sean's school teaches both CLF and Tai Ji Quan.
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He created it from 3 systems which means it's a buffet...the flavor of each original system is not the same it's a blend...just like most CMA...and it's full of legends just like most CMA......maybe not to the extent of SD but still a buffet.....Baqua is a buffet...and on and on and on....... Chan Heung might not of been Hairy, but he must of had some big b@lls to kick a 80# boulder 12 feetare you dense? after chan heung created clf from his 3 systems he had learned, that was it. no more. he didn't add tam tui, hua, look boon dim gwun ect. thats the point. he created his sysytem and taught it. he did not add forms from other styles after he created his finished product.
I'm not cutting down CLF ( from what I've seen it's pretty cool) or comparing your traditions & legends to SD's (2 different animals) the only point is....look how you react when we attack your system & put you under a microscope...it helped since you were a little snobby to start...I'm not Chinese and will never be Chinese or live in China or China town...so I will continue to Bow to Masters and shake their hand Kentucky style and will bet you they, will enjoy meeting me just as much as you....maybe better since according to our critics, they like to laugh at us
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Hey TTM..He's only talking about his school
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Yeah it does... CLF and TJQ are taught side by side, not in addition to the either.
Kinda like... when I want a beer and a shot, I get both, not a boilermaker. Make sense?
Taught side by side... not one to compliment or enhance the other.
Personally I don't like TJQ. I prefer the CLF internal sets and mechanics... it's much more to my liking & disposition... plus it's all CLF, nothing borrowed, nothing shaved off of something else.
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you havent put anyone under a microscope, your answer is typical of people who don't know the answers, not that i know them all, but am open to learning instead of writing it off without really researching it. im not being snobby, just honest.He created it from 3 systems which means it's a buffet...the flavor of each original system is not the same it's a blend...just like most CMA...and it's full of legends just like most CMA......maybe not to the extent of SD but still a buffet.....Baqua is a buffet...and on and on and on....... Chan Heung might not of been Hairy, but he must of had some big b@lls to kick a 80# boulder 12 feet
I'm not cutting down CLF ( from what I've seen it's pretty cool) or comparing your traditions & legends to SD's (2 different animals) the only point is....look how you react when we attack your system & put you under a microscope...it helped since you were a little snobby to start...I'm not Chinese and will never be Chinese or live in China or China town...so I will continue to Bow to Masters and shake their hand Kentucky style and will bet you they, will enjoy meeting me just as much as you....maybe better since according to our critics, they like to laugh at us
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Yeah but BQ... the difference is Chan Heung never did what SD has. He didn't take 3 different teachings, change the outward appearance & loose lots of the mechanics & say he had the original.He created it from 3 systems which means it's a buffet...the flavor of each original system is not the same it's a blend...just like most CMA...and it's full of legends just like most CMA......maybe not to the extent of SD but still a buffet.....Baqua is a buffet...and on and on and on....... Chan Heung might not of been Hairy, but he must of had some big b@lls to kick a 80# boulder 12 feet
I'm not cutting down CLF ( from what I've seen it's pretty cool) or comparing your traditions & legends to SD's (2 different animals) the only point is....look how you react when we attack your system & put you under a microscope...it helped since you were a little snobby to start...I'm not Chinese and will never be Chinese or live in China or China town...so I will continue to Bow to Masters and shake their hand Kentucky style and will bet you they, will enjoy meeting me just as much as you....maybe better since according to our critics, they like to laugh at us
He took 3 the teachings of 3 different people & created something new by combining them and exploring the possibilities of them as one cohesive piece. He named it after them to honor their teachings & as his teachers, proclaim them as his teacher, but what he taught was created by him from their teachings. Not renamed or glossed over.
Many many many CMAs were done like that.
SD hasn't done that to any degree. Instead, SD has laid claim to many things as their own through some dubious & questionable lineage claims. There are examples that could be named, but there's no reason to rehash.
If it were put out "Oh yeah, I learned "X" from "Y" in 19xx" by ST, there'd be no issue. He would be doing exactly what many CMA teachers have done, borrowed, learned, bought, cajoled, etc... sets from other systems. Instead, by laying out the claims that have been thoroughly discussed... there's an air of dishonesty & mediocrity surrounding the basic CMA skills and training, lack of CMA culture taught and learned, by people in SD.
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