Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[tattooedmonk]

They still speak Japanese in Okinawa. and ki is still ki. See, you're mixing terminology yourself. Who knows what your brand of goju ryu will be by the time you’re done.

Hey JP , you train with Master Mullins, correct??

[goju]

ugh you chimpanzee i swear!!! i said you win the sparring match with the lower belt with out severly injuring him so he learns soemthing. runnning across the room playing scratch fighting wont accomplish anything

and i think im being rather fait you said youve done karate tradtionally they throw your butt in their and they go all out dosnt matter who high or low your belt is its full contact almost full force as well

[Judge Pen]

i wont do anything with my art but practice it and hopefuly bring it into the cage someday soon i have no interst in teaching because it is to hard to keep a good student

ill give you a hint why with sin kwang the

CA_SE HE'S A S_AM AR_IS_

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BY A VOWEL OR SPIN THE WHEEL?

You're avoiding my point though. You have modified what you have been taught already. No one outside of your uncle can verify what it is you have been taught or where it came from. I'm not calling you names or anything else, but what you know has unprovable elements in it also. It would be easy for someone to say "you didn't learn jack--you must have learned it all from a book and are trying to pass it off as having a super-secret teacher that was really good but kept a low profile" and all you could do was talk about your own experiences.

[goju]

any remember there were no names for anything originally the didnt call a hook punch a hook punch they just demonstrated it and you did it. simple as that

[Judge Pen]

yes they do now but if you want to keep tradtion proper you stick to the okinawan terms
and th okinwans adapted jajapense names to sell karate to japan
the sd history if iit would make any sense should have adopted indonesian ones

Ok, so what is the Ryukyuan language term for "breath"? Teach me some of the traditional terminology that pre-dated Japanese appeasement.

And Master The does use some interesting dialects. He uses "chien" instead of "chuan" or "quan" for fist. I think some schools have gone to a more traditional chinese pronounciation, but GM The still says "chien"

[Judge Pen]

any remember there were no names for anything originally the didnt call a hook punch a hook punch they just demonstrated it and you did it. simple as that

No, they called it a punch in their native language. What would that term be (if you know)?

[Judge Pen]

Hey JP , you train with Master Mullins, correct??

I do. I don't go to class that much anymore. I reached 4th and I train on my own when I have time (which isn't as often as I like).

[goju]

You're avoiding my point though. You have modified what you have been taught already. No one outside of your uncle can verify what it is you have been taught or where it came from. I'm not calling you names or anything else, but what you know has unprovable elements in it also. It would be easy for someone to say "you didn't learn jack--you must have learned it all from a book and are trying to pass it off as having a super-secret teacher that was really good but kept a low profile" and all you could do was talk about your own experiences.

how am i modifying it? im practice exactly what im taught and from talking to to other goju practioners ive been taught the same thing they have. nothings changed its all traditonal if anything its kept more tradtional than most


gota grab breakfast ill respond to your posts later!

[tattooedmonk]

ugh you chimpanzee i swear!!! i said you win the sparring match with the lower belt with out severly injuring him so he learns soemthing. runnning across the room playing scratch fighting wont accomplish anything

and i think im being rather fait you said youve done karate tradtionally they throw your butt in their and they go all out dosnt matter who high or low your belt is its full contact almost full force as well

once again, sparring is not win or lose. I understand what you are saying but Sparring is a training exercise . If you want to fight at low, half, full force then that is fine. However , I know that in lower belt class( CSC) there is no to low force or contact involved.

[Judge Pen]

how am i modifying it? im practice exactly what im taught and from talking to to other goju practioners ive been taught the same thing they have. nothings changed its all traditonal if anything its kept more tradtional than most


gota grab breakfast ill respond to your posts later!

Oh, then it must have been modified before it was taught to you. I doubt they used English in Okinawa 100 years ago.

[goju]

No, they called it a punch in their native language. What would that term be (if you know)?

no its not im not bsing you here the the way karate was orignally taught was casual and informal there were no books written on the style no names for the style no names for the kata no names for the strikes etc etc

i have an old kung fu magazine some where in my closet on uechi ryu thats notes the same thing

and even then if i use the japaeses terms then what kind of punch a hook? uppercut theres not just a punch you know?

[tattooedmonk]

I do. I don't go to class that much anymore. I reached 4th and I train on my own when I have time (which isn't as often as I like).

I saw his school online . I like it . Big open space , nice mats , etc. I give you props for being so mellow and diplomatic in this thread. Thanks for all of your input and knowledge.No matter what keep training.

[Judge Pen]

once again, sparring is not win or lose. I understand what you are saying but Sparring is a training exercise . If you want to fight at low, half, full force then that is fine. However , I know that in lower belt class( CSC) there is no to low force or contact involved.

Then how can you tell that you were really better than an upper-rank sparring under these paramters?

[MasterKiller]

my unlce trained under cho then he trained me its not suprising cho was an okiniwan stylist as well a lot of koreans masters no a chinese style or an okinawan one for example praying mantis kung fu is real big down there in korea

Yes, there is a lot of Mantis in Korea, but that's because Lin Pan Zhang, who studied under both Ji Chung Ting and Sun Yuan Chang, and Kang Kyung Bang, who was a student of Hao Heng Lu, immigrated there in the 1940s. Those lineages can be traced back quite a bit.

[tattooedmonk]

Then how can you tell that you were really better than an upper-rank sparring under these paramters?

Unless he just walked into the class and Darth Mauled the guy!!!