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    I like this one too
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y85sHS89svs
    Wow look how old he is any comments GoJU KC
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaichang View Post
    I like this one too
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y85sHS89svs
    Wow look how old he is any comments GoJU KC
    cant see it i can however look at clips on video emo.com if you can find a link of it there post it

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    bummer man you got to get U tube. I will see what i can do KC
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    gmt meteor fist demo

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    http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=...itish-soldiers
    if my memory serves me right the second shaolin do guy they talk to in this vid is one of the bb''s i sparred with while i was at csc

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    http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=...-denver-part-2
    lol this is exactly why i didnt have hard time with sd guys

    they didnt give us head gear or gloves when i was there though

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucereiter View Post

    One of the SD groups on facebook has a better video of that demo. I couldn't believe how bad it is. I mean this is what people have been waiting for decades to learn. Instead of meteor fist it should be called the "go away fly" form. The short forms are better than that!

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    It looks to me like he's leaning back while moving forward and striking. Is this intentional? From a structure standpoint, that's generally a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDJerry View Post
    It looks to me like he's leaning back while moving forward and striking. Is this intentional? From a structure standpoint, that's generally a bad thing.
    the way the hand is on the hip and the "skipping" or "shuffle" stepping look like they could be influenced by european fencing.

    this style was always billed as "the 4th" internal style (excluding all other known internal styles).

    -what is it that makes this style "internal"?
    -were there applications taught along with the form?
    -is that style just the one form?

    i was expecting something more too...
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    Meteor Fist

    It is four forms total......the video doesnt do the form any justice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhi warrior View Post
    One of the SD groups on facebook has a better video of that demo. I couldn't believe how bad it is.
    The quality is so poor all you can see is turning and fists pumping forward. I would not have posted it.


    Anyway call it meteor fist, asteriod jab...it's still just basic punching from what little I can see.

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    Meteor Fist

    Whoever posted that should have gotten GMT's permission first.

    But to clear up some misunderstanding as a result of posting poor video, that is only part of a part of a section or two of one of the four forms. The first part is not punching at all but finger and open hand strikes at multiple but specific pressure points. The second part is combintation of similar strikes to specific points with closed fists. And a demonstration of part of the "theatric" or "psychological" part of the form. Poor video + only limited excerpts of the material, = misunderstanding of something that cannot be explained by a tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One student View Post
    Whoever posted that should have gotten GMT's permission first.
    why? what do you think the video shows that sin the' would not like? why would sin the not want people to see him perform?

    Quote Originally Posted by One student View Post
    But to clear up some misunderstanding as a result of posting poor video, that is only part of a part of a section or two of one of the four forms. The first part is not punching at all but finger and open hand strikes at multiple but specific pressure points.
    from a practical self defense stand point i think it is not realistic to expect to hit a series of pressure points against a resisting attacker. if self defense is not your goal in training that style i guess it is fine... if you disagree please point me in the direction of a single person who can do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by One student View Post
    Poor video + only limited excerpts of the material, = misunderstanding of something that cannot be explained by a tape.
    i have seen the whole thing very clearly. dont make excuses............
    Last edited by brucereiter; 11-20-2009 at 11:09 PM.
    best,

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    I agree with Bruce, the pressure points tactic seems a little ambitious at best. I can see maybe one, but chain punching multiple is going to be very hard to pull off.

    What about structure though, as I mentioned earlier? Are you supposed to lean back like that while attacking? I know the quality of the video prevents you from seeing his hands clearly but he's obviously leaning.

    I'm like Bruce, I'd like to know what aspects classify set as internal. Is it because he's targeting pressure points?

    The title of grandmaster implies that any movement seen should be considered correct and intentional so that is why I have questions.

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