Small Tiger Swallow

[mickey]

Greetings,

I posted the link to the form of Small Tiger Swallow in you Mantis Video Section. I don't know how long the person is going to keep that form available on his site.

Enjoy!

mickey

[oasis]

thanks for the post mickey. that was some really nice formwork. i especially like how fluid he was in the transition from jumping to striking through while landing.

[mickey]

All in a word...


Flava!

mickey

[BeiTangLang]

What branch of mantis is this from??

(interesting sound effects too btw )

[mickey]

BeiTangLang,

I really do not know. I visited this site over a year ago and the downloads took forever. When visited the site a couple of days ago, I saw the form and I thought you guys would like it.

mickey

[mickey]

BeiTangLang,

My initial impression was that this was from the Shaolin Longfist style simply because they have the form and their flavor for that form is similar.

mickey

[BeiTangLang]

No ofense, but unless this is somehow mantis (which I doubt),..Its toast.

(((ok,....its mantis. who knew?? LOL!)))

[MantisCool]

It's a longfist mantis form. Some people call it "Little Tiger Goose".

In Mandarin, it is known as "Xiao Hu Yan". Other branches of mantis also have this form. They are at least 80% similar.

[MantisifuFW]

Mantiscool,

INdeed the Da Huyan is a well known set in Mantis circles. Less so with Xiao Huyan but I have heard that it is used by some Tanglang Schools, perhaps back to Wang Rongsheng.

Off the top of my head...

Steve Cottrell

[MantisCool]

Mantisifu

I have seen a few versions of Xiao Hu Yan but only 1 version of Da Hu Yan?

[mantisben]

Originally posted by BeiTangLang
What branch of mantis is this from??

(interesting sound effects too btw )

I'll say Shaolin Long-Fist. This form is contained in the book by Yang Jwing-Ming and Jeffery A. Bolt titled "Shaolin Long-Fist Kung Fu". The book has a green cover. In the book, the form Xiao Hu Yan is called "Shaw Fu Ien". According to the book, it is a middle-level form in the Shaolin Long Fist style.

An excerpt from the book:

"The purpose of this middle level sequence is to teach the Long Fist student the principles, ideas, and techniques of Northern Praying Mantis, which have been modified to fit the stylistic features of Long Fist."

Great book. Great sequence. Great author.

[Three Harmonies]

Very popular form in Taiwan Mantis circles, seems less well known in Mainland Mantis circles. My take on it, and my talking with some "Longfist Mantis" friends of mine seem to conclude that this was originally a Longfist set, that had some Mantis flavor injected into it. The few people I have seen do app's from this set had more of a longfist flavor than Mantis.
Jake

[oasis]

clip from dr. yang's video on it

download at the bottom of the page

[Robert Young]

I think I can clarify some confusion here as far as how the Small Tiger Swallow form came to Long Fist.

The form Small Tiger Swallow practiced by Long Fist guys in Taiwan was originally from Seven Star Prying Mantis. The reason it looks more like Long Fist was that the people who practice it did not know the difference between PM and Long Fist. It was NOT modified to fit the stylistic features of Long Fist. The way to practice PM is actually quite different from LF.

The author of the book "Shaolin Long-Fist Kung Fu" prabably did not know how the form came to Long Fist from 7* PM. He was taught by his teacher and his teacher did not pass down all the details of the history. Small, Middle, and Big Tiger Swallow are typical 7* PM forms. In 1950's, Several senior students of my GM Han were sent by GM Han to learned PM from GM Wang, Song Ting. That was how Little Tiger Swallow came to Long Fist's curriculum. Later the author, Mr. Yang's teacher, Lee Mao-Qing(my LF younger uncle) learned the form from his senior LF brother.

There you go for the history.

Cheers,

[Three Harmonies]

Interesting, but I am not sure on this. I have never seen this set in the Quan Pu of any traditional Mantis. I apologize but I am not familiar with these teachers you speak of. Could you elaborate?
Jake