Originally posted by Christopher M
It's certainly a different concept than zero itself is. But the bagua are also a different concept than eight is -- we're just talking about the symbolic number system, in which wuji is zero, not suggesting these concepts are equivalent to the numbers.
I just don't think that the number zero should be used because it has philosophical implications that come from a different culture. I could be incorrect here but I'm pretty sure that the Chinese did not invent zero. Zero implies nothing as in "the thing does not exist." The Chinese didn't see things as being so black and white.
I mean a double negative because Wu Ji is not nothing and it is not something. It precedes something and nothing and separateness in general.What do you mean?
I haven't heard this term before. What is its intended meaning.No, Liang Yi is two: yin and yang.
My understanding is that Taiji is the separation of Wu Ji into Yin and Yang. Yin and Yang symbolizes many things but what it really refers to in mystical terms is the division of the conciousness from the rest of reality. Whatever "reality" is.Taiji is not yin and yang, it is one thing: the polarization of wuji. Taiji is the mother of yin and yang as discrete entities. And yin and yang are not 'something and nothing', they are 'receptive and active.'
My understanding is that the ba gua comes from the different combinations of yin and yang. The ****her you get from the mental side of things the more abstract it gets.Everything springs from everything. But the Ba Gua are not one of the 10,000 things which spring from Taiji. The Ba Gua are the Si Xiang combined again with the movement of yin and yang, which is very different than the 10,000 things.
Thanks for the table. But again, I don't agree with the numbering system. The state of Wu Ji is without separation. Something that exists, also does not exist in this state. The term zero means, does not exist.
Wu Ji is not a void. Wu Ji is also not not a void.
How can that be?
Because as soon as we seek to name something as existing or not existing we miss what it truly is.
It makes not sense logically. But the point is that mystic experience defies logic.
Logic requires a subject and an object. In mystic experience that dviision is very blurry.
Not saying that I'm "right" per se just sharing with you how I see things.
Very interesting.Yes, a section of the temporal lobe. This has been studied for a while now, in the laboratory provided by epileptics whose seizures are specific to this area. Recently, it's been possible to do more controlled experiments as a result of the invention of a noninvasive brain-stimulation device; work pioneered by Persinger.