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    Chinese cough remedies

    I met with herbox last friday and he gave me this delightful tin of Chinese cough drops. It occurred to me that I really like Chinese cough drops. They've often got a nice herbal mix that's every effective. So I'm starting this thread to review cough drops. In China, you cough a lot in the cities.

    Golden Throat (quiet clear spring sweets) - these are popular around Shaolin and one of my favs. Very cooling flavor and reminiscent of vicks but with more kick - I feel like one of those breath mint commercials. Not sure what's in them. I've never bothered to translate the Chinese - besides it'd probably scare me. They are little yellow lozenges and come in a little cardboard box.

    Shenfeng herbal throat soothing candy - this the award for the coolest tin - rounds, with a beautiful Chinese pattern and this snap-tight lid, with individually sealed lozenges inside. It's loquat syrup based, plus honey and menthol. Very tasty and soothing.

    Wang Lao Ji Herbal Candy - this is what herbox turned me on to. Sugar, trumpet flower seed, knotweed leaf, liquorice root, menthol. For some reason, the flavor reminds me of Ban Lan Gen slightly with an herbal rooty taste underneath the sugar. They're very effective.
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    Thumbs up glad you liked 'em

    Well, that should quiet things down in the office for awhile

    Seriously, though, Wang Lao Ji has become one of my favorites. I really enjoy the herbal flavor (I am the herb ox, after all!) and they really seem to work. I'm not so fond of the ultra-strong menthol lozenges - the extreme cooling action disrupts the fire in my belly.

    Then there's the honey loquat candy - with the syrup inside... mmmm! I got these originally at 99 ranch for just a little more than a buck - I am a tremendous fan of Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa - the best (and I do mean best since there are many impostors and spinoffs) cough syrup I've ever had. The syrup inside these little drops is just like Pei Pa Koa. Good stuff. Sounds like the Shenfeng drops only without the fancy tin.

    The best part is, I can get these fairly cheap even up here in the cultural flatlands of the North Bay.

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    Dosed by the boss

    Gigi just gave me some Watermelon Frost tablets. They're ok. You get about 8 in a little sealed package...not sure how many of these package come in a box, tho. She's given them to me before. They're like watermelon flavored vicks, if you can imagine that.
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    Speaking of Nin Jiom

    I just picked up some of their Tangerine-Lemon herbal candy. It's ok. Sweet. mild. A tad too expensive for what you get in my mind, and I can't stand the tin because it's bright orange and hard to open when you're driving. It's Indonesian though, so not truly Chinese, but why be exclusianist.

    Funny, I thought this thread was longer.
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    Not CHinese, but up here in canuck land we have a little thing called "fisherman's friend" and sweet jebas they are the best cough drop you can get here bar none.

    the expectorant mentioned, the Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa is pretty good for bringing up a lot of phlegm that is stuck, but I don't find it to be stopping of coughs.

    For that, you want opiates...or the next best thing dextramethorphine! mmmdxm kills coughs dead... but it will also make you curl up into a ball and sleep for 16 hours. ;D
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    We have Fishermans' Friend here too

    Fisherman's Friend has a great website. But back OT, I cannot recommend Nin Jiom Tangerine-lemon herbal candy. The packaging sucks. The round tin is hard to open and the individually-wrapped lozenges get all stuck to the paper. The product isn't that effective. I think I'm still most partial to Golden Throat for sentimental reasons - it reminds me of Shaolin.
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    I usually pop some gum cho in my mouth, for a sore or dry throat. Of course, you're left with a mothfull of wood pulp, and splinters .
    Hey, howz that line go?
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    Ryukakusan Plum Herbal Drops

    Ryukakusan Co. is from Tokyo, so it's not really a Chinese cough drop, but neither is Fisherman's friend and I bought my Plum Herbal Drops in a Chinese market, so close enough in my book. These come in a 10 per package roll, like a chewing gum. They have a complicated herbal mix: elder flower, high mallow, siebold primorose, about a dozen herbs but I can't read them all because I ripped the package already. Hard to imagine all those herbs packed into a little rectangular drop. They are very yummy, like Japanese candy, although not sickeningly sweet like some hello kitty candy. They seem to work well at coating the throat. I took one and didn't cough for quite a spell until I took a drink of water and washed off the coating. I'm going to get more of these when this one runs out.
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    Slightly OT

    Syrup, not drops.

    Why does herbal cough syrup work so well? It may be full of morphine
    FDA says to return drug-laced bottles. We're sure everyone will comply



    21 Jan 2016 at 23:34, Shaun Nichols

    The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is sounding alarms after an herbal cough remedy sold throughout the US was found to contain morphine.

    The FDA said that bottles of Licorice Coughing Liquid made by Chinese-based Ma Ying Long Pharmaceutical Group and distributed by Master Herbs, Inc contain a "camphor compound" whose ingredients include a form of the highly-regulated opiate. The cough syrup was sold through various Chinese grocery stores in California, New Jersey, Ohio, Nevada and Hawaii and marketed as a treatment for colds, coughs and sore throats.

    The recall notice says that users who unknowingly take the morphine-laced syrup could experience serious health problems, including respiratory depression (read: not breathing) and severe allergic reactions.

    Anyone who has purchased one of the 100ml bottles of Licorice Coughing Liquid is being advised by the FDA to contact the manager and return the item to the store where it was purchased. Shop owners, meanwhile, are being asked to pull the cough syrup from their shelves and return any unsold product to Master Herbs.


    Use for cough, sore throat, and chasing the dragon

    Though this appears to be the first morphine-related recall of cold medicine for the FDA since at least 2011, the opiate was once a popular ingredient in the "snake oil" patent medicines widely used in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and marketed as cure-alls for everything from colds to venereal diseases.

    The FDA keeps an extensive list of unapproved over-the-counter cold and cough remedies, and in 2007 the administration recommended avoiding their use altogether for young children.
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    Slightly OT

    This is cough syrup, not cough drops, and I fully endorse this stuff. I've used it for years. It's a great OTC product. I'm excited to see it got coverage in the NYT.

    Herbal Supplement Has Some New Yorkers Talking, Instead of Coughing
    Some claim success with Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa, but experts warn of the risks of taking such products


    A bottle of Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa. PHOTO: JOHN TAGGART FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
    Feb. 22, 2018 11:18 a.m. ET

    If there’s one thing New Yorkers love more than discovering a new secret remedy, it’s telling other New Yorkers about it.

    “I’d been super sick for a week and half and couldn’t stop coughing,” said Alex Schweder, an architect and professor of design at Pratt Institute.

    That’s when his girlfriend gave him a bottle of Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa, an “herbal dietary supplement with honey and loquat,” according to the label.

    “This started working in 15 minutes,” said Mr. Schweder. “I’ve probably gotten about five people to try it, but I’ve told many more.”

    Mr. Schweder’s girlfriend, Oberon Sinclair, owner of a creative agency, first learned about the herbal supplement nearly 30 years ago when she was living in Hong Kong.

    The remedy, often referred to simply as Pei Pa Koa, is sold both in cough-drop form and more commonly in 10-ounce bottles in Chinese markets and Chinese pharmacies for approximately $7 as well as online through third parties for up to $70.

    Taking herbal supplements can involve health risks, including when they are used with medicines, consumed in excess or taken instead of prescription medication, said Dr. Keith Brenner, specialist in pulmonary medicine at Columbia University Medical Center at the New York Presbyterian Hospital.

    “I think people that use these things may not even disclose them to the physician, and it’s a problem,” he said. “There’s been well-established interactions between herbal and prescription, and the doctor can pick up on it if the patient discloses it.”

    The Food and Drug Administration advises consumers to speak to a health-care provider before taking a supplement and to be wary of any product claims that sound too good to be true. The agency doesn’t have the authority to review dietary supplements for safety and effectiveness.

    Herbal remedies with loquat have been produced in China for hundreds of years. The Nin Jiom Medicine Manufactory began producing Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa in Hong Kong in 1946. The Chinese characters on the bottle translate to “Beijing, in memory of my mother loquat thick paste.” The company began marketing it to mainland China, North America, and Europe in the 1980s. Competing loquat syrup remedies are still produced in Hong Kong, but they remain less popular.

    “All of a sudden, everybody is talking about it,” said Ching Weh Chen, owner of Pearl River, a Chinese market in New York City where the syrup is sold for $7.80. “Chinese people have known about it for a long, long time. It goes back to Qing dynasty, but now it’s Caucasian customers coming in and asking for it.”

    Sue Decottis, a physician in internal medicine at New York University Langone Medical Center who also has a private practice, says herbals can have some value and she will, on occasion, recommend them to her patients. She hasn’t prescribed Pei Pa Koa. “There’s also the placebo effect with anything like that, but there’s no real money behind it to do big studies,” Dr. Decottis said.

    “I got a bottle of it in the height of my flu which seemed to hang about this year for two months deep in my chest and not let go,” said Matthew Modine, the actor currently starring in Netflix’s “Stranger Things.” Mr. Modine bought the product on Amazon and paid about $30.

    “My only trepidation was that it was coming from a country with different standards,” said Mr. Modine, who was familiar with loquat from his childhood in Los Angeles. “They’d fall off a tree and we’d pick them up and throw them at cars.”

    “With respect to influenza, the most critical time to get attention is when the virus hits because antivirals like Tamiflu need to be administered within the first 48 hours if they’re going to be effective,” said Dr. Brenner. “If herbals are the first line of defense, we’d lose that window, especially if someone has other medical problems, and there’s a higher risk the flu virus will lead to hospitalization or even death.”

    New York State Department of Health Commissioner Howard Zucker urged everyone to get a flu shot and said anyone with flu symptoms should see their health-care provider.

    Poet Max Blagg, who learned about Pei Pa Koa from an acupuncturist in Chinatown, said: “I was a little apprehensive. If you look on the label, there’s a thousand herbs you’ve never heard of.”

    Mr. Blagg passed the recommendation along to painter James Gilroy, who had the flu for three weeks. “He showed me a bottle with some crazy Chinese writing on it and I thought no, I’m going to go to a doctor,” said Mr. Gilroy.

    Appeared in the February 26, 2018, print edition as 'Herbal Tonic Stirs Interest, Caveats.'
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    Pei Pa Koa boba

    Ryan General·December 17, 2018·4 min read
    California Boba Tea Shop Rocks the World With Chinese Cough Medicine Bubble Tea



    A new bubble tea concoction from a shop in San Gabriel, California is set to tap into its Asian customers’ nostalgia while also providing relief for sore throats, coughs, hoarseness and aphonia.

    Blended with popular Chinese herbal syrup “Pei Pa Koa,” the new drink from Labobatory is bound to bring back childhood memories.


    Image via Facebook / Labobatory

    Known for its distinct minty taste, the cough syrup traces its origins from a formula created in the Qing Dynasty. The syrup has been manufactured since the 1940s and sold worldwide by Nin Jiom Medicine Manufactory.

    It has been the go-to remedy for a variety of cough-related ailments for generations of Asians in many parts of the world.


    Image via Facebook / Labobatory

    Labobatory aims for their cough syrup-infused beverage to remind drinkers of that time when their Asian mothers took care of them when they were sick.

    According to the bubble tea shop, the new drink will be available throughout the holiday season along with four other holiday-inspired flavors as part of their holiday menu.


    Image via Facebook / Labobatory

    The other beverages introduced for its holiday menu are Chocolate Peppermint Milk Tea, White Chocolate Strawberry Milk Tea and Spiced Chocolate.


    Image via Facebook / Labobatory

    “We strive to create unique concoctions that blend premium traditional ingredients and modern twist on ingredients new and old,” the company’s Facebook page noted.


    Image via Facebook / Labobatory

    In its bid to “raise the boba bar,” the inventive folks behind Labobatory has been making unique boba tea creations since 2011, introducing offerings such as Alcoholic Boba, Yakult-infused yogurt boba, among others.


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    Slightly OT

    Chocolate is American, not Chinese, but I'm still down with this.

    Anyone ever try Rococo? I started to search for an official product website but right now the web is full of different versions of this article.

    Forget cough syrup: Chocolate may be a better cough suppressant, study says
    By: Alexa Mae Asperin
    Posted: Jan 15, 2019 12:02 PM PST
    Updated: Jan 15, 2019 12:02 PM PST



    SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) - Got a cough that just won't go away?

    Toss the cough syrup and grab a piece of chocolate -- that's what a few English researchers are suggesting!

    According to a research group at the University of Hull in Yorkshire, England, a study explored the link between chocolate and respiratory health.

    A total 163 patients in Europe who had a cough were examined.

    Those patients were randomly prescribed either regular codeine or a chocolate-based medicine called ROCOCO.

    Research showed that patients who took the chocolate-based medication reported a "significant improvement" in their symptoms within two days, compared to those who took the regular cough syrup.

    “We have just seen the results of the largest real-world study of an over-the-counter cough remedy ever undertaken in Europe,” lead author Alyn Morice told the Daily Mail. “This proves that a new medicine which contains cocoa is better than a standard linctus.”

    The study's authors recommended sucking on a piece of chocolate to help relieve cough symptoms.

    If you're thinking hot chocolate counts, think again!

    Researchers say hot cocoa may not be as effective because it does not come into contact with the throat long enough.
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    Shaolin Glycyrrhiza and Platycodinin Candy

    I was gifted some of these by the monks that attended the 2023 TCEC. They are awesome. Some of the best cough drops I've ever had. Decent taste, a tad Chinese medicine-y but not obnoxiously so, and highly effective. I shared them with several medics that I was working with at a Jazz Festival, only one of whom had any experience with Chinese cough remedies, and they all agreed.

    I must get more of these...



    Shaolin Glycyrrhiza and Platycodinin Candy
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    Product Name: Shaolin Glycyrrhiza and Platycodinin Candy

    Product Specification: Net content 40g 16 pieces/ box

    Storage: Store in a cool dry place

    Validity: 24 months

    Formula: White granulated sugar, starch syrup, Glycyrrhiza, Platycodon grandiflorus, Lonicera japonica, Sterculia lychnophora, Houttuynia cordata, honey and so on.

    Efficacy: Relieve sore throat and have dietary function for throat’ s excessive phlegm, dry itchy, sore and other symptoms.
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