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    1421, The year China discovered the world

    http://www.1421.tv/the_book.asp


    very interesting stuff,,i thought it might be a good topic in here.


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    yep, saw that book a while ago. it's on the list
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    I think I saw that documentary on PBS about 2 months ago. It was like 2 A.M. and i was dozing, so I don't remember too much.
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    Eventually I'll get around to reading that one.
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    Very interesting. I saw this topic on "In Search Of" w/Nimoy when I was a kid and ever since then I've been hooked.
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    i am still trying to get a feeling of whether or not the chinese seaman really ever made it as far as the east coast of Northamerica. because there are sure as hell no account of them through native ameircan oral history,,or in mexico and central america,,now we know that african nations and phonecian sailors made it as far as the central american coast(lots of evidence on that). but really nothing on the east coast or central america,, i mean you would think that if the fleets were cargo ships that they would have left some things behind and been collected by the coastal tribes,,but nothing. so i am a tad skeptical,,not that the chinese ever sailed to fer regoins,,but that they made it to N. America,,C. america etc.


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    I wonder if it's anything like China's first astronaut?
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    the evidence, and its been around for a while, is the statues that have been found in central america that look very chinese. They have asian faces and clothing I believe.

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    World Maps from ancient China.

    http://www.modernbookshop.com/wzq/maps/worldmaps2.htm

    Babelfish to translate.

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    the evidence, and its been around for a while, is the statues that have been found in central america that look very chinese. They have asian faces and clothing I believe

    nope those are believed to be phonecian and african,,which arrived in central america and had an influence on the toltecs way before 1400's.they did have almond shaped eyes but then again so do the maya(and modern day central americans) i am not dimsissing a correlation in genetics to asiatic peoples and that of the central americans or native N american tribes,,still though,no definitive proof or artifacts to suggest chinese. it would be cool to find some though. i know those statues you are talking about,,they are not oriental.

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    Greetings,

    I see someone has been reading up on ancient African history. Those who are interested in checking out more should read:

    1) They Came Before Columbus --Ivan Van Sertima

    2) The African Presence in Early Asia -- Ivan Van Sertima

    3) Black Jade: The African Presence in the Ancient East -- James E. Brunson.

    I have long believed that the African/Native American relations predated slavery and that the only thing that shocked the Native Americans during the time of the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade was that the Africans came in chains. So, their support of Africans escaping and accepting them into their families may not have been because of a common foe, but, rather, in support of an old friend.

    ShaolinTiger00: You believe that the Chinese astronaut thing was a hoax?

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    Originally posted by mickey
    Greetings,

    I see someone has been reading up on ancient African history. Those who are interested in checking out more should read:

    1) They Came Before Columbus --Ivan Van Sertima

    2) The African Presence in Early Asia -- Ivan Van Sertima

    3) Black Jade: The African Presence in the Ancient East -- James E. Brunson.

    I have long believed that the African/Native American relations predated slavery and that the only thing that shocked the Native Americans during the time of the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade was that the Africans came in chains. So, their support of Africans escaping and accepting them into their families may not have been because of a common foe, but, rather, in support of an old friend.

    ShaolinTiger00: You believe that the Chinese astronaut thing was a hoax?

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    i jsut saw something on learning channel, all life as we know it came from africa. first wave went through india down to australia, then 2nd wave through india, china, alaska, into nrth america and south america. so technically all our ancestors are from africa.
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    Originally posted by Shaolinlueb
    i jsut saw something on learning channel, all life as we know it came from africa. first wave went through india down to australia, then 2nd wave through india, china, alaska, into nrth america and south america. so technically all our ancestors are from africa.
    I have read arcticles which involve this theory, but at the same time this is still a theory. Just as the theory of Pangea, in which case there was no africa, we all came from the same land which at some point split due to volcanic sizemic activity, creating plates out of our once whole crust. Its all based on speculation with minimum evidence.
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    I just picked up the book and haven't got into it yet, but I remember my high school history teacher telling us there was historical evidence to say the first foreign traders to reach Australia and trade with its natives were Chinese. Of course, it wasn't called Australia until Europeans invaded and pillaged it

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    I have read arcticles which involve this theory, but at the same time this is still a theory. Just as the theory of Pangea, in which case there was no africa, we all came from the same land which at some point split due to volcanic sizemic activity, creating plates out of our once whole crust. Its all based on speculation with minimum evidence.
    indeed but your two examples: the splitting of a supposed world continent and the rise of anything manlike are epochs apart.
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