Mantis development

[sayloc]

I read part of an article by Wei Hsiao Tang on an 8 step web site that stated that the Northern mantis system started with:

Bi Men ( Mi Men)

then

Shuai Shou (wrestling hands)

then

having seven star being developed in the early 1900's



My questions are:

Is it true that seven star was developed in the early 1900's?

Is this wrestling hands system really older than seven star?

Where can I find information on the wrestling hands system?

Thanks

[Joe Mantis]

Sayloc,

you have mail.

[Hua Lin Laoshi]

Joe Mantis,

You have mail.


I hate when people do this. So why am I doing it?

[Joe Mantis]

HLL,

you got mail.

[Hua Lin Laoshi]

Guess we should get back on topic or face the wrath of BTL.

Sorry sayloc, can't help you with your questions. I can tell you that Wrestling Hands is the system of Mantis that was incorporated into the Wah Lum system. We know it as Jut Sow Mantis. Since our history is not well documented I have no idea when it originated.

[yu shan]

Did a search on Jut Sow (Shuaishou). Not much time to invest in tonight, so I of course picked an old thread by Mantis 108 "Some thoughts on the term Shuaishou". Please read this thread gentlemen. Interesting info on the relationship between Meihwa and Shuaishou. Wish I had more time to search this out... I`m packing for a trip. Geeez, why isn`t anybody sending me mail!

[Three Harmonies]

EVERYONE has mail!
Can you post a link to Mr Huis article Yu Shan? I would also like to hear more about Mantis throwing hands!!?? As everyone knows I am a bit of a Shuai Chiao junky! I need my fix man!
Jake