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  1. #16
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    Tai Chi is done so many different ways with so many different ideas on how to do it.

    Very hard to give you advice on if you should do the particular style that you are taking without actually seeing or even knowing what the instructor is having you do.

    Just in my opinion 80% (if not more) of the people teaching Tai Chi do not even know what they are doing. Im not saying what they are doing doesnt have its benefits but there is so much more to it.

    The advice given to you about Tai Chi + your knee injury = BAD
    These are the ones who know what I am talking about.

    If what you are taking, the concepts are: real relaxed, slow, light on your feet, easy stances, no worries/stress, etc. then you may be alright. (still some risks) but you can do that just doing everyday movements, walking around the house etc. and get close to the same results.

    As far as doctors you have to tell them what is going on and what your plans are for the future, that you are going to stay very active, do very intense training and if they dont tell you what you need to hear.
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    Good doc's are out there, you just have to find them, Just like instructors. You have to look around
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    Ok look, I'm not even gonna be putting a lot of pressure on my knee. If this is the case your all talking about, then I'll just reduce training to 1 hr per week. I can run all I want, no knee pain. It has gotten alot better though not fully healed. What actually hurts me the most is jumping. Oh and I'll see how the first few wks go, I should be starting this Thursday, and if I do feel uncomfortable, then I'll do something.
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    Originally posted by serene_dragon
    Tai Chi is done so many different ways with so many different ideas on how to do it.

    Very hard to give you advice on if you should do the particular style that you are taking without actually seeing or even knowing what the instructor is having you do.

    Just in my opinion 80% (if not more) of the people teaching Tai Chi do not even know what they are doing. Im not saying what they are doing doesnt have its benefits but there is so much more to it.
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    This is absolutely correct. The single most popular style of T'ai Chi in the West is known by the 5 families as "Hurting Knee Style" because the guy that formulated it didn't know enough to keep his knees in proper alignment. So, unless you are 100% sure that your T'ai Chi instructor is classically accurate, you are MUCH better off with a competent orthopaedist, especially one who specializes in knees.

    And good T'ai Chi Ch'uan is just as much kung fu as any other style.

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    These are not "they make my life better," things, these are "If I ignore these things, I am laid up for 4 or 5 days" type stuff.

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    I'm the same way. Not that I can't do things and all, but I have to be mindfull that I get certian training in regularly, or I'm out of the game.
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


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    The single most popular style of T'ai Chi in the West is known by the 5 families as "Hurting Knee Style" because the guy that formulated it didn't know enough to keep his knees in proper alignment.

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    Which style are you talking about?

    I know my Chao style Taiji was like that to a certian extent. I was corrected by a Water boxing exponent though, so in my case I'm ok.
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


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    Harvard Doctor recommended

    A Harvard doctor says these are the best exercises for your body
    Erin Brodwin
    Mar. 8, 2018, 9:06 AM 599,728


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    Running isn't the only way to work out.

    Harvard Medical School professor of medicine I-Min Lee says five other types of exercise are also hugely beneficial for your brain and body.

    The exercises include strength training and walking.

    If you think running a marathon is the quickest way to a rock-hard body, I-Min Lee, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, has news for you: That classic feat isn't as good for your body as it seems.

    Instead of long-distance running, which can be hard on your joints and digestive system, Lee recommends five other types of workouts. They generate benefits that range from weight loss and muscle building to protecting your heart and brain and strengthening your bones.

    The findings are detailed in a Harvard Medical School health report called "Starting to Exercise" which recommends some of the best exercises for your body.

    Here they are.

    1. Swimming

    "You might call swimming the perfect workout," write the authors of the Harvard Healthbeat newsletter, which summarizes the report's key takeaways and gives insight from Lee.

    In addition to working nearly every muscle in your body, swimming can raise your heart rate to improve heart health and protect the brain from age-related decline. Plus, being afloat makes this type of exercise nearly strain-free. "Swimming is good for individuals with arthritis because it's less weight-bearing," Lee said in the newsletter.

    When you swim regularly for at least 30 to 45 minutes at a time, you're doing aerobic exercise — a type of workout that a spate of recent research suggests could help battle depression, lift your mood, and reduce stress, among other benefits.

    2. Tai chi

    Tai chi — also called tai chi chuan — is a Chinese martial art that combines a series of graceful, flowing movements to create a sort of moving meditation. The exercise is performed slowly and gently with a high degree of focus and a special attention paid to breathing deeply. Since practitioners go at their own pace, tai chi is accessible for a wide variety of people — regardless of age or fitness level.

    Tai chi "is particularly good for older people because balance is an important component of fitness, and balance is something we lose as we get older," Lee said.

    3. Strength training

    At its most basic, strength training involves using weight to create resistance against the pull of gravity. That weight can be your own body, free weights like barbells or dumbbells, elastic bands, or weighted ankle cuffs.


    You don't need equipment to do strength training. Shutterstock

    Research suggests you can use either heavy weights and a small number of reps or lighter weights and more reps to build stronger, more sturdy muscles.

    Chris Jordan, the exercise physiologist who came up with the viral 7-minute workout (officially called the "Johnson & Johnson Official 7 Minute Workout"), told Business Insider that healthy adults should incorporate resistance training on two to three of the four to five days per week that they work out.

    You can also use high-intensity interval training (HIIT), which combines the cardiovascular benefits of cycling or running with resistance training, to achieve the same or similar results. If you like HIIT, the 7-minute workout is a great place to start.

    Whichever workout you try, the most important thing is to keep doing it.

    "To achieve results, consistency is key," Jordan said.

    4. Walking

    It might sound insignificant, but walking can be powerful medicine.

    Several studies suggest that walking for at least 30 minutes — even at a moderate or leisurely pace — can have benefits for the brain and body. One recent study found that in adults ages 60 to 88, walking for 30 minutes four days a week for 12 weeks appeared to strengthen connectivity in a region of the brain where weakened connections have been linked with memory loss. And a pilot study in people with severe depression found that just 30 minutes of treadmill walking for 10 consecutive days was "sufficient to produce a clinically relevant and statistically significant reduction in depression."

    If you don't currently exercise regularly, the folks at Harvard recommend starting your walking routine with 10-15 minute treks and building up to 30 or 60-minute hikes.

    5. Kegel exercises
    Kegel exercises are important for both men and women because they help to strengthen a group of muscles commonly referred to as the "pelvic floor." As we age, these muscles — which include the uterus, bladder, small intestine, and rectum — can start to weaken. But keeping them resilient can have important benefits, ranging from preventing embarrassing accidents like bladder leakage to the accidental passing of gas.

    The right way to do kegels involves squeezes the muscles you'd use to hold in urine or gas, according to the folks at Harvard. They recommend holding the contraction for two to three seconds, releasing, and repeating 10 times. For the best results, do them four to five times a day.
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  7. #22
    There was some old discussion of knee health in relation to Tai Chi and other forms of Kungfu. Moving in stances can help rehab the knee if done properly and harm it if done improperly, I've experienced both. I see so many Tai Chi for health and balance people doing their stances and footwork incorrectly. I have corrected a few people I know and they were amazed how much better it felt.

    Points to avoid and to consider:

    Letting ones knee extend past the ankle or worse past the toes.

    Stepping forward into a bow arrow stance with ones full weight. Instead try keeping the weight on the back leg, stepping the front foot forward, and then rotating the waist so the weight distribution is 50-50 to differentiate Yin and Yang in the stance.

    Having the front toes facing directly forward and the back foot facing out to the side. Stepping and waist rotation feels so much better when the front is hooked in 45 degrees and the back foot is hooked in around 60 degrees.

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