Demons and Martial Arts

[FuXnDajenariht]

invoking is dangerous stuff to mess around with trivially...

i wouldn't be in that building if you paid me to.

i second everyones sentiment of 'freaky' lol

[TaiChiBob]

Greetings..

There are no "Demons".. except those you choose to believe in, and even then they only reside in your own mind.. unfortunately, they can influence you to do things not appropriate.. but, knowing that they are only as real as you choose them to be should dispel any real harm.. too many people fancy the notion of dark and light entities to which they assign personalities.. it is only a notion..

Be well..

[Ray Pina]

I've come across this in Hung Gar circles in NYC but won't mention names because they are sort of prevelant.

This is what you come across when you study village boxing .... you get 300 year old farmer intellect.

As far as demons, I'm with TaijiBob. You have appetities that stem back to your reptile brain, like eat, eat, eat while the eatings good. This was a positive when we were starving on the plains of Africa. But now that there are McDonalds on every corner, you could say that voice is a demon. Think of the 4-Fs (feeding, fleeing, fighting and fu(king ) OUr old brain ran on those. Our newly evolved cortex gives us reason.

Don't go fulfill every erge of the 4Fs with internet porn and binging. That demon is inside all of us but over come it with virtue. The ancient Greeks spoke of this a loooooong time ago. This is also a part of internal alchemy.

I've now learned how to seperate orgasm from ejaculation, and try to limit the former. It's made a big difference. Lost about 10 to 15 lbs, thinking clear, stronger, etc. Funny thing is, now I have women beating my door down and try to limit myself to one expenditure a week....... guess this got a little off topic

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by Ray Pina
I've now learned how to seperate orgasm from ejaculation, and try to limit the former. It's made a big difference. Lost about 10 to 15 lbs, thinking clear, stronger, etc. Funny thing is, now I have women beating my door down and try to limit myself to one expenditure a week....... guess this got a little off topic

Just slightly off topic Ray. But, then again, this was a thread about Demons, so I guess anything's fair game.

[Becca]

Scarry stuff indeed. I once knew a guy who got into it with a wickan bent. He ended up going very much crazy. Started walking around thinking his curses were the reason certain people had acne. Ended up being commited after trying to drown himself in a toilette. Very sad.

[Shaolinlueb]

sounds like the power of the darkside. hmmm yes indeed.

[GeneChing]

If you do any serious research into CMA secret societies, underground Chinatown 'black society' and/or Taoism and Buddhism (all topics that come up pretty fast for anyone really into CMA research) the notion of demonic powers is quite prevalent. But there's a considerable cultural difference between the way that Chinese culture views such things, as opposed to Western culture. That's where your BS-o-meter alarm rings. There's plenty of resources on Chinese mythology/mysticism - find out if the master is basing his mysticism on a Chinese or a Western paradigm. If it's Western, then it's just some new age mumbo jumbo. If it's Eastern, you may want to re-examine it a little further, just to see what's going on. I wouldn't just write it off to bad crazies right away.

You'd be surprised how many great grandmasters believe in Chinese mysticism. I've heard some amazing tales, straight from masters that are well respected here, but not the kind of thing they would want repeated in public. There are more things on heaven and earth....

[red5angel]

If it's Eastern, you may want to re-examine it a little further, just to see what's going on. I wouldn't just write it off to bad crazies right away.

are you saying eastern demons are more real then eastern demons gene?

[Golden Tiger]

First, let me say that I think this guy is probably just being silly and trying to pander to the "angst filled youth" looking for something dark to tap into.

But.......

I have heard and read account of people who were deep into meditation and astral projection (believe it or not) saying that along their journeys they did meet "people". Now, this could have been the result of "willing" something to happen or even a case of psychosis due to the intense concentrationassociated with mediataion.

A similar example of this can be seen in some of the old "Holy Roller" Pentacostal church services, vodoo rituals, etc.... Watch these people react to the "spirit" like speaking in tongues, the laying of hands, and so on. They will tell you that it is all as real as it can be. Then watch someone that is trying to generate and focus their chi.......VERY similar indeed.

Sorry to ramble but this topic interests me quiet a bit....

[David Jamieson]

1 word - "shamanism"

it's prevalent in pretty much all cultures but has taken a beating from modern reason, science and most of all common sense.

[PangQuan]

Originally posted by red5angel
are you saying eastern demons are more real then eastern demons gene?

I think that the workings in regards to the belief in the demons is different from eastern to western. Like western demons come from "hell" as eastern demons are not necessarilly required to stem from such a dimension.

[ZIM]

"I'm" going to just "randomly" put "quotes" around in various "places", like the previous "posters" did above.

But only because I'm a Western "demon".

[PangQuan]

The quotation marks represented the Ideal of hell, since some do not believe. instead of non quotations, which would imply that i believe, which i do not.

[kyklos]

I think Milton wrapped it up nicely in Paradise Lost:

The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.

[Starchaser107]

I do not believe in "Pang Quan"

just kiddin'
i think Pang Quan is real.