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  1. #31
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    Sifu Phillip Redmond
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  2. #32
    Thanks Lawrence and Phil. For sharing the videos.

    Kudos to both match participants for entering the match. Takes courage.

    Didnt see any wing chun in it... and the first training video(with "multiple" opponents) is relevant to my views on "sparring."

    joy
    Last edited by Vajramusti; 03-14-2005 at 10:26 PM. Reason: correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Redmond
    Just got back from Toronto. Here are the clips.PR
    Thanks Phil.

    -L
    I don't think Wing Chun is so limited that I can't do it when I wrestle, box, kickbox, or fight by MMA rules, nor am I so limited a student that I can't improve by training in each of those forums. -Andrew S

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  4. #34
    Hi everyone,

    To me the first clip does not really represent sparring but rather normal training situation, or an exercise which we do at the seminars. The koong-sao clips found in here http://www.meihua.ee/index2.php?file=video represent sparring, or something very close to it, to me.

    The second clip: the wing chun-guy was rather toothless in front of the other guy. In my opinion there was one fundamental error - he attempted to attack the guy with a hasty low kick, and he did it first before his opponent really did anything, and by doing so opened his defence. Why did he not wait and let the other guy make the first move (preparation for attack) which he could have countered with his move (attack)? Now he just rushed forward unprotected. I'm for sure no specialist in wing chun/tsun/tsung, but it appears to me that before the other guy can get a hold of you, he must get pass your front leg (foot/leg/knee) and your front hand (fist/arm/elbow). If he tries to shoot to your waist while your protecting your upper body with your hands, with correct movement (side step) you should be able to kick or knee his face/head while he is diving down, or elbow his neck/back of the head, or strike his neck and temples with hammerfist or with the edge of the hand. If he manages to grab your waist, you should still have time for one or two blows before he takes you down with him, which, if properly executed might make a difference and soften him up a bit so that you have more changes fighting him while on the ground. In that videoclip the wing chun guy had no defence at all and the other guy got a really good hold of him. I think that if the WC-guy would have stuck to what he has learned to do and not try to fight as NHB-fighter he would have got better chances. In the first clip it was mentioned that this wc-guy can block and punch at the same time and kick low and everything; why did he not do so? To direct frontal attack a low kick or direct front kick is quite effective, not to mention kick to the groin (probably not allowed in that kind of fight). These may not end the fight, but they will surely cause great pain to the opponent and probably destabilize him a bit, both mentally and physically. Anyway, that second clip probably demonstrates how important it is to keep your package together even under great stress (the wc guy looked a bit stressed in the corner).

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