I'm saying that the hand form that has the extended fingers risks more injury than the one that doesn't. You are right about claw moves lashing out, but if you get in a real grappling battle it would be more likely that the extended finger claw would be easier to grab the fingers and put the practitioner in a not quite so fun position. Truth is most likely the claw won't be kicked as you seemed confused by that, but it is easier to hurt an extended finger than a clentched in one. So I guess I'm saying the first one would be safer and more practical to use than the latter claw.Originally Posted by Ben Gash