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    another quiting smoking thread

    i know there have been quite a few of these posted in the last five years, and i even posted one myself as i tried to quit 2 years back and failed 4 days into the attempt, but i did have a couple questions about quitting in the long term. plus its always great to read about other people who have done it.

    i didnt want to waste anyone's time again, so this time around i waited a bit before making a thread like this. april 4th will make 6 months since i quit (5 without a single drag ... screwed up here and there during my first month). about 3 months into it i finally thought i had it beat completely. then out of no where there are cravings again. not intense nicotine carvings like when you first quit, but a fond remembrance of blissfully killing myself drag by drag. very fond. i even dreamed about smoking the past 3 nights. i also catch myself occasionally thinking, "meh ... its been so long now you could have a cigarette without becoming a full on smoker again." i know that's retarded, and that i eventually would be smoking on the regular again, but it doesn't stop me from thinking it sometimes. keep in mind i haven't had a beer or anything in 3 months either. plus i didn't quit drinking during the first 3 months i quit smoking and still managed.

    so i was wondering ... is this normal .... just another phase of becoming a non smoker? the phase where you start to think you got it beat so well that you could be a casual smoker? if it is does it eventually go away?

    it sucks .... i was finally at the point where i'd see someone smoking and i'd feel sorry for them instead of myself. now i'm looking at them with envy again. don't get me wrong .... i got a list about a mile long of reasons not to smoke ... but you only need one to quit quitting.
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    Understand this: all cigarrettes have been soaked in my urine for 6 months to one full year before they are allowed to be put on the market.

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    It ain't stopped for me. I hate to say it, but I have actually stood out in the smoking area at work just to smell the smoke. Still break down and have one every once in a while, but the issue of having to wash all my cloths because they stink after even one cigarette keeps me from falling off the wagon completely.

    I always enjoyed the taste of them. It was the smell they left afterward I never liked. Making myself wash everything uses to my lazier side to keep at it. I've heard that brushing your teath before smoking will make you dislike the taste, as well, when you doing consistantly over time. I am still working on this, but I don't usually have any toothpast with me when I cave.
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    you're kidding? i would love to drink that beer just BECAUSE it's in a dead animal...i may even pick up the next dead squirrel i see and stuff a budweiser in it

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    been there done that. i do not have a problem quiting, i have in the past just quit cold turkey for 2 to 3 years and pick it back up not because i was craving a cigarette but i missed smoking. currently i smoke but i am getting to a point that i probably will quit because not tasting good anymore. once i quit, will i pick it up again, don't know, depends if i could find some Mild Seven's(my favorite cigs.)

    what are your choice of cigarettes? of course mine is Mild Seven's, but currently smoke Marlboro Ultra Lights/Lights.

    this thread is just wrong........i think i am going out for a cigarette!

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    thank you vash and neuro.

    becca .. not quite what i wanted to hear, but thanks for being honest and sharing.

    jhapa ... your a dirty ho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnedDownAtrocity
    thank you vash and neuro.

    becca .. not quite what i wanted to hear, but thanks for being honest and sharing.

    jhapa ... your a dirty ho.
    no, just keep at it, you'll get to a point that you won't even crave it or even dream about it. worst critic of smokers are ex-smoker. i probably need to quit, i kind a get winded during training, of course i am not 21 anymore either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnedDownAtrocity
    i also catch myself occasionally thinking, "meh ... its been so long now you could have a cigarette without becoming a full on smoker again."

    so i was wondering ... is this normal .... just another phase of becoming a non smoker? the phase where you start to think you got it beat so well that you could be a casual smoker? if it is does it eventually go away?
    GDA: this is possibly the most classic example of "relapse behavior" there is. Thinking that due to a semi-lengthy period of abstinence from drug or alcohol, that "one won't hurt" and "I won't be back where I was before." It is absolutely normal to have these thoughts, most if not all addicts think along these lines early in their recovery. The trick, as you have figured out, is to NOT give in.

    Hang in there!

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    I smoked for over 10 years.


    One day I was standing there with about 3 or 4 friends and we were all smoking cigs.

    It was at that point I felt how much damage my lungs had taken over the years of abuse I had given them. I could fully feel how awful the smoking was for me.


    It was at that point I realized the only way to quit smoking is by truly wanting it.


    I went and bought one of those patch things, the three step kind.

    I started with the second step patch for about a week, then realized the only good I was actually getting out of the **** thing was the super lucid dreams.

    Threw the patch out and found out just wanting it was enough to help me quit.


    1 month after I quit smoking I tried a cig just to check myself. I found it utterly repulsive and couldnt even handle smoking it, I had to put it out.

    Havnt had one since.

    edit: that was 5 years ago
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    found this looking for my training log . . .. currently working on year 5. i have had a few cigars though. not as in a few here and there . . . i think ive had 2 or maybe 3 in the last 2 years. none before that as i felt it was too risky.
    where's my beer?

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    I've gone 3 weeks without smokes or alcohol.
    Was never more than a weekend guy anyway.
    A coworker has been using peer pressure to get me to fall off the wagon, and I know he's gonna rag on me if I fall off any time before april.
    I'll be happy if my new year's resolution sticks to July.
    Still got a ways to go.
    Find myself with a lot more freetime on the weekends.
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    stick with it man . . . it gets harder before it gets easier, but it does eventually get easier. i couldnt even imagine smoking now . . . i mean once in a great while ill miss it, but there's no actual urge, and i know id miss being a non smoker a ****load more than i miss being a smoker.

    i haven't had any beer since new years either, but thats just a january thing for me. kinda remind myself that there are some things i dont need as much as i think i do . . .. like my own personal passover.
    where's my beer?

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    Well the fact that I can actually do stuff on the weekends without having to worry about healing up from the previous day's sins is very nice.

    The best selling point for not smoking thus far is that it doesn't feel like my body's falling apart after a good workout day. My ability to heal & my resistance to getting sick feels much improved. Kinda makes me feel a few years younger. If I can turn back the clock a bit, then it's worth a few boring weekend evenings.

    I do kinda miss going to Flying Saucer for 3 of their 200+ types of beer; but I've got stuff I need to accomplish before I'll allow myself that pleasure.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
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    Chinese e-cigs

    The Ruyan V8, yea, that's just what I want to take a drag off of...

    Chinese e-cigs gain ground amid safety concerns
    By AUDRA ANG – 2 hours ago

    BEIJING (AP) — With its slim white body and glowing amber tip, it can easily pass as a regular cigarette. It even emits what look like curlicues of white smoke.

    The Ruyan V8, which produces a nicotine-infused mist absorbed directly into the lungs, is just one of a rapidly growing array of electronic cigarettes attracting attention in China, the U.S. and elsewhere — and the scrutiny of world health officials.

    Marketed as a healthier alternative to smoking and a potential way to kick the habit, the smokeless smokes have been distributed in swag bags at the British film awards and hawked at an international trade show.

    Because no burning is involved, makers say there's no hazardous ****tail of cancer-causing chemicals and gases like those produced by a regular cigarette. There's no secondhand smoke, so they can be used in places where cigarettes are banned, the makers say.

    Health authorities are questioning those claims.

    The World Health Organization issued a statement in September warning there was no evidence to back up contentions that e-cigarettes are a safe substitute for smoking or a way to help smokers quit.

    It also said companies should stop marketing them that way, especially since the product may undermine smoking prevention efforts because they look like the real thing and may lure nonsmokers, including children.

    "There is not sufficient evidence that (they) are safe products for human consumption," Timothy O'Leary, a communications officer at the WHO's Tobacco Free Initiative in Geneva, said this week.

    The laundry list of WHO's concerns includes the lack of conclusive studies and information about e-cigarette contents and their long-term health effects, he said.

    Unlike other nicotine-replacement therapies such as patches for slow delivery through the skin, gum or candy for absorption in the mouth, or inhalers and nasal sprays, e-cigarettes have not gone through rigorous testing, O'Leary said.

    Nicotine is highly addictive and causes the release of the "feel good" chemical dopamine when it goes to the brain. It also increases heart rate and blood pressure and restricts blood to the heart muscle.

    Ruyan — which means "like smoking" — introduced the world's first electronic cigarette in 2004. It has patented its ultrasonic atomizing technology, in which nicotine is dissolved in a cartridge containing propylene glycol, the liquid that is vaporized in smoke machines in nightclubs or theaters and is commonly used as a solvent in food.

    When a person takes a drag on the battery-powered cigarette, the solution is pumped through the atomizer and comes out as an ultrafine spray that resembles smoke.

    Hong Kong-based Ruyan contends the technology has been illegally copied by Chinese and foreign companies and is embroiled in several lawsuits. It's also battling questions about the safety of its products.

    Most sales take place over the Internet, where hundreds of retailers tout their products. Their easy availability, O'Leary warns, "has elevated this to a pressing issue given its unknown safety and efficacy."

    Prices range from about $60 to $240. Kits include battery chargers and cartridges that range in flavors (from fruit to menthol) and nicotine levels (from zero — basically a flavored mist — to 16 milligrams, higher than a regular cigarette.) The National Institutes of Health says regular cigarettes contain about 10 milligrams of nicotine.

    On its Web site, Gamucci, a London-based manufacturer, features a woman provocatively displaying one of its e-cigs. "They look like, feel like and taste like traditional tobacco, yet they aren't," the blurb reads. "They are a truly healthier and satisfying alternative. Join the revolution today!"

    Smoking Everywhere, a Florida-based company, proclaims it "a much better way to smoke!" while a clip on YouTube features an employee of the NJoy brand promoting its e-cigarettes at CES, the international consumer technology trade show.

    Online sales make it even more difficult to regulate the industry, which still falls in a gray area in many countries.

    In the U.S., the Food and Drug Administration has "detained and refused" several brands of electronic cigarettes because they were considered unapproved new drugs and could not be legally marketed in the country, said press officer Christopher Kelly.

    He did not give more details, but said the determination of whether an e-cig is a drug is made on a case-by-case basis after the agency considers its intended use, labeling and advertising.

    In Australia, the sale of electronic cigarettes containing nicotine is banned. In Britain, the products appear to be unregulated and are sold in pubs.

    Smoking is tightly woven into the fabric of daily life in Ruyan's home turf of China, the world's largest tobacco market where about 2 trillion cigarettes are sold every year.

    Tobacco sales, the biggest source of government revenue, brought in $61 billion in the first 11 months of last year, up 18 percent from 2007, the Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper said.

    In a country where the cheapest brands of cigarettes cost about 20 cents a pack, the e-cig is far pricier. Ruyan's V8 costs $240 and includes batteries and 20 cartridges of nicotine solution, roughly the same number of puffs as 20 packs of tobacco cigarettes. The line has expanded to include cigars and pipes crafted from agate and rosewood.

    Ruyan is suing a Beijing newspaper for questioning its safety and for claiming in 2006 that its products have more nicotine than regular cigarettes.

    Miu Nam, Ruyan's executive director, blames the newspaper for a hit in sales and profits but declined to give details.

    "We have to restore consumers' confidence, we have to clean up people's doubts," Miu said.

    An operator at the Beijing Times refused to transfer calls seeking comment Friday to managers at the newspaper. A reporter said she had heard of the case but would not give any details.

    Some international experts back Ruyan's claims its product is safe.

    David Sweanor, an adjunct law professor at Ottawa University and former legal counsel of the Non Smokers Rights Association in Canada, said e-cigs have the potential to save lives.

    With smoking, "it's the delivery system that's killing people," Sweanor said. "Anytime you suck smoke into your lungs you're going to do yourself a great deal of damage. Nicotine has some slight risks but they are minor compared to the risk of smoke in cigarettes."

    Dr. Murray Laugesen, a New Zealand physician involved in tobacco control for 25 years who was commissioned by Ruyan to test its e-cigs, said he found "very little wrong" with them.

    "It looks more like a cigarette and feels more like a cigarette than any other device so far and yet it does not cause the harm," he said. "It's the best substitute so far invented for tobacco cigarettes."

    In the U.S, both Philip Morris USA and RJ Reynolds have introduced cigarettes that did not burn tobacco, but the technologies were very different from the e-cigarette. Neither has been successful.

    In 2006, Philip Morris USA, test-marketed the Accord, which used a heating unit activated by puffing. RJ Reynolds introduced its cigarette, the Premier, in 1987 and still sells the Eclipse, which heats the tobacco rather than burning it. Sales are "not great," said spokesman David Howard.

    Li Honglei, a fast-talking 28-year-old public relations manager in Beijing, has been smoking since he was in his teens and desperately wants to quit. He thinks he may have found his answer in Ruyan.

    "I was intrigued by this new technology," said the pudgy, bespectacled Li as he surveyed products displayed in glass cases at Ruyan's brightly-lit shop in the capital. "I heard acupuncture is effective as well, but this method sounds more painless."

    Associated Press writers Chi-Chi Zhang and Yu Bing in Beijing and Vinnee Tong and Carley Petesch in New York contributed to this report.
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    i have stopped smoking cold turkey several times over the years... the last time was nearly 3 years ago, of course there have been a few drags slipped in here and there, mostly when i was outta my head drunk. just recently in december i quit drinking altogether after waking up one day with a swollen liver... haven't had the desire since and i don't plan on it... i even passed on some free bud that my friend owed me for a truckload of firewood i gave him. seems the year of the ox has brought in some new change that is much welcomed. goodluck everyone, i know first hand that its easier said than done, but where there is a will, there is a way.

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    5 years no smoking.

    also just had my 5 year cancer check up. im considered as cured as one can get ... they dont even bother doing scans from here on out unless there are some symptoms that warrent it.
    where's my beer?

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