Wing Chun - Chi Sao

[benny]

i agree with flavour54. we dont have belts or gradings but have to be able to do the thing we learn properly before we learn anything else, which just makes you work harder.
im not sure what you mean by double chi sao as in my school we have single dan chi, double dan chi,rolling,steping back than forward,then chi sao but it took me 2 something years of going every day(twice on some days) and practicing at home. it might be a long time but it just makes you better at what you know.
see ya
THE MORE YOU SWEAT IN PEACE
THE LESS YOU BLEED IN WAR

[WT]

Hi Dave.

Very interesting.Even in the years I have trained there has been a lot of changes in the training programs.
The student grades now only contains the first Chi Sao section.
WT

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sihing73:
Hi WT,

Thanks for the clarification. I went back and looked over my old syllabus just to make sure I was on the right track. When I was teaching WT, back in 87-90 Poon Sau was introduced at the 8th student grade and the 1st through 4th sections of Chi Sau were introduced from 9th-12 student grade, respectively. We were starting to incorporate many of the Lat Sau programs into the curriculim as well. I am assuming there are still 7 sections of Chi Sau being taught.

In any event, we spent a lot of time on Dan Chi as it allowed us to focus on just the one arm and really refine our techniuqe/feeling.

Peace,

Dave[/quote]

[WT]

Hi Dave.
I just met him a week ago.
He is not as big now as he was then,but he is still very fit.
WT
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sihing73:
WT,

Thanks for the heads up on Sifu Kernsprecht newest book. Now, there is a man I truly respect regardless of whether we are in the same branch anymore. He is probably one of the best people I have ever had the privilege of touching hands with. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] Of course he once asked me how I would fight him and win. I replied he could stand about 25-30 feet away from me and I would just shoot him [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] We both laughed at that.

I have rarely seen so much power in a soft refined application. I once put my car in a ditch while visiting him at the castle. You know he came out and actually lifted the back end of the car about 6 inches off the ground and was swinging it around trying to get it out of the ditch. We had to get a tractor but still, I was impressed as he did this with ease. Of course he is getting older now, Shhh don't tell him I said that :}

Peace,

Dave[/quote]

[ATENG]

mantisboxer

hehe, sorry, i should clarify that our school is not part of UC berkeley, its just located in the city so i called it berkely wingtsun. most students there are students at Cal though.

abe

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Its all fun and games til someone loses an eye. Then its just fun.

[Sihing73]

WT,
They now only teach one section of Chi Sau for the Student Grades? Wow that is a bit of a change. Do they still have 7 sections? I am deftly familiar with how often things change in a "system". Most of the changes seemed to me, simply variations on what was already covered.

Sifu Kernsprecht is an interesting guy [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] I used to hate training at the castle as he often bounced me from the walls. Could never figure out why he would use me instead of my practice partner. H always said it was because I had good technique, but I think he liked knocking the American around. maybe as a result of his British education [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

SNT Chi Gung was alwasy taught but not as part of the system. If one stuck around long enough then one was trained in how to incorporate the breathing techniques into the form. Slow practice was the key. Interesting that a program is now being offered at the castle.

Ateng,
Congratulations. Good luck. Poon sau is another layer of the onion. Don't get caught up in the movements but instead play with the differeing energies and learn from them. There are so many sublties one can use. Play with all of it. Use a little more forward pressure and then use very lttle and see how it feels. The basic rolling should be done slowly and with purpose. Insure your elbow position is good otherwise you will have problems later. But, once you get the basic rolling down, play with it and have fun. Trust me you won't be sorry. Remember Chi Sau is not a competition but is a means of learning energy and how to deal with it. It is all about learning to feel the opening and taking advantage of that hole. Conversely it is also about learning how to control the opponent and create your own opening. There is so much to do with it that mastery will take a lfetime. Of course that lfetime can hold lots of fun. Especially when performed with members of the opposite sex. My 1st wife learned WT with me and went to almost as many seminars as I. We would still be together were it not for an automobile accident. Still, we had some fun times.

Good luck,

Dave

[ATENG]

sihing73

sorry about what happened to your wife. thanks for the encouragement!

abe

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Its all fun and games til someone loses an eye. Then its just fun.