Which concept is more important for martial arts?
Which concept is more important for martial arts?
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Ill go out there and poll my vote for effectivness. Its nice to be efficient, but whats it worth if it doesnt always work.
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I would say effectiveness is more important. Something can be effcient but if it's not effective then it doesn't matter. Something can be effective but not efficient. This means that whatever your doing gets the job done but can be improved upon.Originally Posted by Fu-Pow
Which concept is more important for martial arts?
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how can something be efficient and not work?
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I don't see how effectiveness and efficiency are mutually exclusive.
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You can have a very efficient method of doing something such as punching many times in a short amount of time, but without effectivness, many of these punches will not connect.
However you can be inefficient such as punching slow (such as less punches in the same time frame, but with effectiveness you will connect with your technique.
Of course a natural course of training will develop both qualities simultaneously, there is not always a perfect balance. So stressing the effectiveness of your technique is always a good idea.
A man has only one death. That death may be as weighty as Mt. Tai, or it may be as light as a goose feather. It all depends upon the way he uses it....
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A man has only one death. That death may be as weighty as Mt. Tai, or it may be as light as a goose feather. It all depends upon the way he uses it....
~Sima Qian
Master pain, or pain will master you.
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"Just do your practice. Who cares if someone else's practice is not traditional, or even fake? What does that have to do with you?"
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But you could argue that punching many times in a short amount of time but not hitting your target is inefficient since you expend energy/resources on an activity that does not achieve your goal. Whereas a single slow punch that connects is efficient because you achieve your goal in a direct (though slow) fashion.
Efficiency is not a concept that stands alone - it is tied to the ability to achieve your goal. An engine that only burns 1 litre of petrol per day is no good if it cannot propel the vehicle it is attached to.
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Wouldn't something HAVE to be effective to prove efficient? Would a computer that could make 984468146574684 calculations per second, all with 0% accuracy, be considered efficiant?
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lol, yes that analogy is much better than mine. To true JoeDoe my analogy sucked.
A man has only one death. That death may be as weighty as Mt. Tai, or it may be as light as a goose feather. It all depends upon the way he uses it....
~Sima Qian
Master pain, or pain will master you.
~PangQuan
"Just do your practice. Who cares if someone else's practice is not traditional, or even fake? What does that have to do with you?"
~Gene "The Crotch Master" Ching
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I find car analogies always work best
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You can have a very efficient method of doing something such as punching many times in a short amount of time, but without effectivness, many of these punches will not connect.
I guess I'd disagree, Efficiency implies to me that it not only works, but it works better then most other options.
If you can throw a lot of punches really fast but you can't connect or can't hit hard enough to make a difference, then I couldn't call that efficient.
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