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    Starting a club from the ground up

    Had an interesting turn of events this evening. It's something that made me realise that it's time for me to start teaching again.

    OK, here's what I'm doing, with little to no $$, and only a park to practice in, I am going to start a Kung Fu club. I am looking for people to work on the Tai Tzu material I have been researching for the last few years. I may do it as a study group, or I may do it as a class where I teach Kung Fu according to me.

    Anyone got any ideas on how I can do this, and get students quickly? I need low cost marketing ideas. I need ideas to raise awareness of the program, and get people involved.

    The goal would be to build a group that, in time, will be the core I need to support a viable commercial school someday.


    Saturday, if not as soon as I'm done working tomorrow, I'm going to go start scopeing out some local parks, and picnic areas to see what may work.


    Let's hear your thoughts and ideas!!
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    Help sif you have one or more friends who are interested in learning. Start training with them at home or in a park. As they get more competent, encourage them to bring friends. As you get a larger group, move classes into a hall somewhere and start charging money.

    The reason I recommend training with a small group first and getting them competent is that it is hard to run a school on your own, so you need help from other competent players.

    One way to build your numbers that I have seen work very well is to start teaching at community colleges etc. and use those classes as feeders into your school.
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    In no particular order:

    - word of mouth (free from friends)

    - website (free if you can do it yourself which is not hard)

    - flyers / posters (design them yourself or a talented friend, cost of printing thousands just a few hundred $)

    - doing demos (at every local event, tournament, etc)

    I did the above when I started my school in October, and have gone from 1 to 21 paying students in 4 months. Currently I'm getting an average of 2-4 new students joining per month, so I'm looking at 50 by the end of the year, which is a good target given that I'm only paying a % to the gym where I use the room 3 nights per week.

    Good luck,

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    Do any of your parks have indoor sports/meeting rooms? Ours' do and they will rent them to you at VERY low rates. You do have to have insurance but that is affordable and you have a nice floor and people going by that can become students. There are also several schools in this area that use church gyms to train in. Since these are mostly sitting empty you might be surprised if you ask at a couple to find one that will work with you.

    If we practice outside in the parks here we still have to be insured. No MA practice allowed on city property without it. Just something you might need to look into.

    What is listed above, demos, word of mouth and the rest are a good start.


    Good luck.

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    Had an interesting turn of events this evening.
    When don't you RD?
    I quit after getting my first black belt because the school I was a part of was in the process of lowering their standards A painfully honest KC Elbows

    The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

    Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

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    Here's some advice:

    Drive to Madison WI. Visit Saeksan and his school. He has many years of teaching experience and I'm sure he could give you some good input.

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    find a YMCA or other health club that regularly has a lunch-time arobics class in the gym. let them see you work your forms. if the arobics instructor asks you to explain what you're doing explain that you didn't mean to disturb thier class.

    i did this once in boston and was sharing the class with the areobics gal the next meeting and getting half her monthly fees.

    they learned two forms in a month (and well, too!). but they weren't looking for lengthy workouts or long forms...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wall
    - website (free if you can do it yourself which is not hard)
    For cost, if you want to pay me.

    /hey, I had to.
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    first thing you need is a plan - get a lesson plan together - something you can talk to and show people should they ask for specifics. Next, find a student and rely on word of mouth from there. Since it's only a "small study group" and you're not insured (or are you?) then you may not want to advertise too much.

    Another option may be to visit some local gyms. You may find one that wants to institue an MA program. If so, con...um....persuade them to let you run one for them. Churches are another option. I've recently been approached to start a program at my church and also at a local gym.
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    Are you still shooting for a 6 figure salary?

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    I hope not...
    i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStar
    first thing you need is a plan - get a lesson plan together - something you can talk to and show people should they ask for specifics. Next, find a student and rely on word of mouth from there. Since it's only a "small study group" and you're not insured (or are you?) then you may not want to advertise too much.

    Another option may be to visit some local gyms. You may find one that wants to institue an MA program. If so, con...um....persuade them to let you run one for them. Churches are another option. I've recently been approached to start a program at my church and also at a local gym.
    A lesson plan is a good idea but an even better one is a business plan. Creating a business plan really makes you think about what you want from your business. What do you want to do in the first 3 months, 6 months , year and so on. you can also create you definition of success with your business plan. If you're not meeting your own expectations then you know that you have to change something.

    -Put flyers up at the community college.
    -Give some free classes at elementary schools and have the kids take flyers home.
    -Do the old flyer on the windshield trick at any large parking lot near the park where you will be practicing.
    -Make one of those folding signs that says "Royal Dragon Kung Fu" and put it out when you're giving classes at the park so people who pass by can get info.
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    Are you still shooting for a 6 figure salary?

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    No, just enough to cover rent, and insurance.

    The Chicago Mob appears to be having some postions opening up, I'm thinking of sending in my resume, so I really don't need $$ from Kung Fu.
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


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    Chief Fox,

    I actually have agood lesson plan, many infact. I have a pretty deacent, and progressive curriculem to work from.


    >>Put flyers up at the community college.

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    A Great idea! There is one not too far form where I'm thinking of going.

    >>Give some free classes at elementary schools and have the kids take flyers home.

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    Another great idea! I know just the schools I'm going to do this at. I may take it one step further and hit the High school too.

    >>Do the old flyer on the windshield trick at any large parking lot near the park where you will be practicing.

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    Not a bad idea, but there are no major parking lots nearby most of the locations I have been scopeing out. It's alot of residential, with many small buisnesses on the main drag. I'd have to hit all of them.

    >>Make one of those folding signs that says "Royal Dragon Kung Fu" and put it out when you're giving classes at the park so people who pass by can get info.

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    Hee he he, I actually have a banner from when I was doing this before.
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


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    Go to

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    And

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