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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    That's like shooting someone in the back! Sorry, don't have any videos of tiger takedowns in application. Some of them even gut the opponant with the tiger claws once they are on the ground.

    On page 101 it says fook fu kuen (subdue tiger form) is part of the curriculum of Malaysian Wing Chun that was brought there in the 1930's by Yip Kin

    On page 118 it mentions a set of techniques called big-taming-tiger.

    The book would make a good xmas present for yourself. They have most the Wing Chun lineages traced all the way down to 1998 when the book was published. It would be nice to know where you fit all that...
    Thanks

    Going to look that form up

    I'll maybe look for the book, see what of money they're going for lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    Sorry, don't have any videos of tiger takedowns in application. Some of them even gut the opponant with the tiger claws once they are on the ground.
    You need to sort that, it is year of the tiger after all

    Can only find hung ga forms of the same name, and judging from them there's a lot of tiger in wing chun, certainly.

    defo makes me realise I need to look at more Southern kung fu lol

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    I've read that Southern dragon was an influence in the development of wing chun, do you know anything about Southern dragon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.D.O View Post
    I've read that Southern dragon was an influence in the development of wing chun, do you know anything about Southern dragon?
    There are thousands of Southern Dragons. Do you know of any specific videos? The only dragon form I've seen anything remotely similar to Wing Chun type moves is in the salutation to one of Arc Yuen Wong's dragon forms where there's a sequence about 8 of them and I don't know why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    There are thousands of Southern Dragons. Do you know of any specific videos? The only dragon form I've seen anything remotely similar to Wing Chun type moves is in the salutation to one of Arc Yuen Wong's dragon forms where there's a sequence about 8 of them and I don't know why...
    I'll keep looking but the videos ive seen don't really look much like any the of the wing chun (main land or other ) ive seen.

    thanks, I'll see if I can find anything on arc Yuen wongs dragon forms

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.D.O View Post
    No, unfortunately most of his forms out there are really watered-down, in large part because he only taught the complete forms to his top students, and various subsets of them to many many others. Every once in while I go for an extensive hunt on YouTube to see if anything good has turned up but rarely find anything but parts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    No, unfortunately most of his forms out there are really watered-down, in large part because he only taught the complete forms to his top students, and various subsets of them to many many others. Every once in while I go for an extensive hunt on YouTube to see if anything good has turned up but rarely find anything but parts...
    is it from the same sifu though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.D.O View Post
    is it from the same sifu though?
    Yeah, almost any Kung Fu person in L.A. over 50 learned some parts of Arc Wong's forms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    Yeah, almost any Kung Fu person in L.A. over 50 learned some parts of Arc Wong's forms...
    popular was he

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    on the subject of dragon in wing chun, from what I've read recently, I think it is the twisting and coiling of the body that's the dragon element in wing chun, rather than hand techniques...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.D.O View Post
    on the subject of dragon in wing chun, from what I've read recently, I think it is the twisting and coiling of the body that's the dragon element in wing chun, rather than hand techniques...
    They must be talking more about snake-like dragon forms sort of like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZE8-M65ZT8

    That twisting and coiling is more symmetric, whereas most dragons are usually more spiraling, which is very unlike Wing Chun. Next thing you know, you will be telling me there's some monkey style in Wing Chun, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    They must be talking more about snake-like dragon forms sort of like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZE8-M65ZT8
    different to wing chun, but I can't really see with the robe being so long

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post

    That twisting and coiling is more symmetric, whereas most dragons are usually more spiraling, which is very unlike Wing Chun. Next thing you know, you will be telling me there's some monkey style in Wing Chun, haha
    I would say wing Chuns twisting was more like bagua twisting my self, that being more up right.

    no, no monkey lol.. though I did see fook sau being referred to as monkey paw in a book, which didn't make sense till I seen a monkey punch a guy on the chin after redirecting his hand with a fook sau lol

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