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    Question Help with translation...again...

    if 'shou' is hand then what is 'arm'? or would you just consider them the same?

    what is 'drill' (as in to do a drill or exercise) ?

    thanks !!!
    "George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."

    "If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"

    "Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"

    It's simpler than you think.

    I could be completely wrong"

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    Smile Hi Oso

    Shou is more than just hand. It also means combinations, techniques and such things depending of the context. The entire arm is Bi.

    Drills mostly translated as Dui Lian.

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    Thanks bro !






    I'll prolly delete this tomorrow...my question was too general for the 'terminology' thread.
    Last edited by Oso; 06-08-2005 at 07:28 PM.
    "George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."

    "If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"

    "Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"

    It's simpler than you think.

    I could be completely wrong"

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    hmmm....

    bi as in 'ber' or 'bee' or 'bay' ?

    which tone?

    Dui Lian ...umm, i not even sure where to go there...'dwee leeahn'?

    {sigh}

    I just need to take a course at a college.

    or find a hot chinese woman and have her fall madly in lust with the xiong.
    "George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."

    "If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"

    "Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"

    It's simpler than you think.

    I could be completely wrong"

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    Bee, but not like beeeeeee. It's a short "Bee" sound.

    Dui Lian- phonetically, dway lee-en. Dui isn't pronounced with a drawl, either (like I said about Bi), it's short. Wish I could help with the tones, but the best I was able to do was get most of the pronunciation down, and even that's starting to go the way of the Dodo.

    And yes, I can't possibly recommend any more seriously that you study Mandarin in depth as it helps not only with just knowing what you're saying, but it really brings a depth to the art that you won't get knowing only the "translation".

    Or, yes. Hot asian girlfriend who happens to be fluent. Good luck with that one. Pretty short supply of those over here. Sucks for Nashville.

    Good Luck

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    Bi is like when you pronoun the numeral 1 in mandarin, Yi but pronounced in letter "b".

    In "drill", overhere we sometimes said "Cao" meaning exercise or Dui cao, 2-person drill. To drill a person on what he had learnt we would use the word "cao" also.

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    Lu Bu

    Well buddy, if my memory doesn't fail me(i never forget a pretty face, but don't ask me what i did yesterday!!), you have a hottie in your class who can help u.
    You need me to spell it out for u??
    hahahahaah

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    18 old men

    Kejia nu ren was a flourish of fresh air when she walked in her first day. She has brought so much quality to our little gongfu club. And yes she teaches mandarin language lessons to fellow students for free mind you. So Big Bear, if you have questions, c her.

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    hanzi characters

    - bì (bee 4th tone, accent down)
    隊練 - duì liàn (dway lee-en, both are 4th tone, accent down)

    I also know drill as 操練 - cāo liàn (tsao 1st tone, flat; lee-en 4th tone, accent down) but this may be more of a military term.

    18 elders & yu shan you are too kind. i appreciate the flattery, but it's unwarranted. i think the point being made was the lack of "hot" asian girls in nashville. enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kejia nu ren
    i think the point being made was the lack of "hot" asian girls in nashville. enough said.
    I don't know. . . . I've had pretty good luck in Nashville.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oso View Post
    AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.

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    Miss Kejia,
    It is duei bu duei de duei for duei lien.

    About the arm as it relates to fighting.
    hand-shou-rhymes with dough.
    wrist -wan-rhymes with man as said by Bob marley.
    Zhou-elbow-as in sloppy "joe?" There are a huge number of prefixes for the types of elbow as used in Mantis
    bi-arm-as in bumble "bee!"-this term is very ambigoius and is rarel used alone.
    In Pm commonest is bi zhou(bi! zhou)-arm elbow. This means the outer forearm as used in strikes.

    Kevin

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    thanks all

    specifically what I've been wondering is how to tell my students to work on 'arm drills' or 'hand drills'
    "George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."

    "If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"

    "Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"

    It's simpler than you think.

    I could be completely wrong"

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    Kejia
    Nothing wrong with hot asian girls!!!
    What program do you use for your hanzi on the computer? Are there any good free ones? Someone told me Windows has one all set up, but I cannot get to it for some reason (probably my intense computer training skills ). Any suggestions?

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    my bad

    shifu kevin,

    thanks for the correction. don't i wish my parents sent me to chinese school

    - duì in case anyone was interested in the correct hanzi.

    burroughs laoshi i PMed you.

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    I see what you did there

    18 Elders- She's taken, duder (which upset a large majority of our class, I can tell you that). Thankfully, she's going to help me with my mandarin...because I need a whooooooole lot of help.

    Plus, I can't worry about the women right now, anyway...have to get all my ducks in a row so I can move to Taiwan so that when you and Shifu want to come over there, you have a place to stay during your visit!

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