Fighting with a stool?

[KC Elbows]

Alas, I only wrestle with my stool perhaps once, maybe twice, per week.

Bran=good chi, cheese=bad chi

[MasterKiller]

Bran=good chi, cheese=bad chi

It's not the diet. When my appendix ruptured they removed a few solid inches of intestine that had become infected..since then..one poop a week is normal for me. But oh, what a poop it is!

[SPJ]

Will this help?

Tai Chi .

[Yum Cha]

I recckon SPJ is hard done by.

I don't believe anything is static. Lam'o Pie, you said there is so much cool KF out there, why make stuff up, yet your branch is blazing new paths in commercialised training and sport fighting techniques.

I mean, It makes sense, why should I learn to use a stool or bench, especially when I keep my Kwan Do in the car, my double swords in my belt, my whip chain around my waist and my short staff in my pants....( I can't believe you guys missed that one.)

If stool fighting is a waste of time, then by association, all other traditional weapon fighting is a waste of time (something I have often considered myself...other than firearms and backpack tactical nukes).

So, being that a stool is more common than a sword or even a staff, isn't it more relevent? Isn't the essential lesson of weapons training in learning how to adapt practically anything into an effective weapon? As the saying goes, the hand is the mother, the stick is the father, and all weapons are their children?

I have video of Chan Hak Fu's son doing the Giant Screwdriver form, will I share? NO! But I am secretly training up a band of Motor Mechanics as a private army.

Tain't no big thing, I just think SPJ deserves some credit for delving into what is the essence of traditional Kung Fu. Kudos.

But, I'll be ****ed if I'm gonna share my 8 smashing whomps with a road-kill Kangaroo with you louts...

But I will send you some stools.....

[SPJ]

Yes.

The shoes, belt or shirts twisted like a rope etc may be used as "devices" to defend or fight with limits.

In the old time, something hard, or sharp may all become some kind of "devices" to fight.

From sharpend rocks and arrows, to cruise missiles, we have come a looooong way.

[TaichiMantis]

CCK TCPM actually has an umbrella form. I've seen it performed by some of Grandmaster Ly's students. Very cool!

[Yum Cha]

SPJ - you mentioned clothing. We were playing with rubber knives one day, and asked Sifu for some advice on dealing with knives, and without a seconds hesitation, his jacket came off, over his head, wrapped around the knife, and bound the arm with a couple of twists. It wasn't the first time he ever did it, obviously.

And, those heavy bar room ashtrays, chairs, stools, or even glasses, I've seen all brought into play before.

I think the question is, do you train with them, or does your training give you an edge on improvisation. I think surely the latter in most cases.

[SPJ]

Yes. There are some drill sets using the "prop" to fight.

They are derivations or extensions of your regular open hand training.

In the old time, some of devices may become a main "weapon".

For example, your shirt is twisted into a rope like with tied up on both ends. Use both hands to hold on both ends as if you are holding a long staff or 3 section staff except there are no outer sections. You pretty much use the same skills with a long staff except focusing on the mid section which is what you have.

As an extension, you may use your elbows to hit etc

It is a combo. You may still punch with both fists dropping the shirt on one end or not. The rest is the same with your open hand techniques.

etc.

[FatherDog]

So, has anyone here sparred with MasterKiller or red5angel?

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

I happen to know you're wrong. If one wants to fight well with their stool, one must fight with their stool every morning, and again at night. Clearly, it's the same fighting with your monkey.

It is a rare morning that I do not fight with my stool for at least an hour, sometimes two. It is hard practice, but the feeling of accomplishment that follows is worth it.

KCelbows alan: try some of that 'hard chis' practice. as the pressure builds in your throat your tongue should squish through your teeth like the li-gong just before the zhide-jing. also, the same pressure building is required to throat-sing as the armenians do: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. those of you struggling need to build and release from the breath. chi power is all about correct breathing. this should get things moving again.

for those whom still wrestle with the stool: the ability to replace a stool after it has been moved is inversely proportional to its viscosity and its sweatieness.

[ShaolinTiger00]

Actually I know a badazz bench set. It's very dynamic and requires a huge amount of stamina, flexability, dexterity and skill.

Sifu Barry required all students to know this form before they were allowed to move onto larger weapons like the kwan do or tiger fork because of their weight. (if you could whip a beanch around your head one handed then you were ready for those weapons..)

[BornToKill]

http://www.shaolinchamber.com/video_...vidclip_05.wmv

another cools cene form that movie:
http://www.shaolinchamber.com/video_...vidclip_03.wmv

[BornToKill]

Actually I know a badazz bench set. It's very dynamic and requires a huge amount of stamina, flexability, dexterity and skill.

Sifu Barry required all students to know this form before they were allowed to move onto larger weapons like the kwan do or tiger fork because of their weight. (if you could whip a beanch around your head one handed then you were ready for those weapons..)

I thought you train in san shou? I didnt know you traine din classical kung fu?

[ShaolinTiger00]

I trained in jow ga and northern shaolin for years before I saw san shou in '95, and for a year or two after I did both, and then just dropped forms completely.

[Lama Pai Sifu]

"Blazing New Paths"? You can't be serious? I love these comments.

My Sifu once said that "most KF teachers are like crabs in a bucket. The crabs just climb over each other and keep draggin each other down. If they were to unite an combine there strengths, they'd escape with ease." Hey, KF people, support each other!

Yum Cha,

I assume you are commenting on my training brothers in NYC who do Saan Da. If you are talking about me, I would be surprised, since I don't believe we've met.

Every time anyone achieves success in the MA business, everyone has something to say about it. I love it. Open up a school, show up for work everyday and I'll speak to you in 15 years.

As far as my comment about all the KF out there; let me be more specific. I don't know the person who made this form. He might very well be a competant martial artist. My comment was directed more at people who don't achieve proficiency at what they have already learned. I have seen many people over the years show me all kinds of craap that someone made up (who was not competent) and tried to pass off as 'good'. It's just a shame. With all the KF out there...That's all I'm saying.