how did you like that style and did you use any of it in your san shou?Originally Posted by ShaolinTiger00
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how did you like that style and did you use any of it in your san shou?
Cha Wang
Touchy Touchy!
Perhaps you should take a leaf from your own book next time you slag some guy for offering up his original thought for our entertainment.
You assume incorrectly. Isn't that you that started the thread "Chinese Martial Arts Business" wherein you are running a clinic on tips and techniques to manage a commercially viable Kung Fu school for the modern western consumer, including training techniques for tournaments? Aren't you also offering a consulting service for a fee as well? I mean, please correct me if I am wrong...Is there more than one Lama Pai Sifu?
My point being that you have chosen to do new things too, i.e. you don't run your schools in EXACTLY the same manner that your sifu ran his, as evidenced by the long and very clearly illustrated thread on Chan Sifu and your thread on "Chinese Martial Arts Business"...and thus when you rubbish other people for trying new things, it seems unequitable and a bit "crabby".
Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. My only critical intonnation was towards your double standard, not towards your business in any way.
Fair enough, thanks for the clarification. If you've been following his posts, SPJ seems like a reasonably qualified individual, I simply think he deserves the benefit of the doubt and wanted to put some runs on his side of the board. Then again, I probably think a lot more like he does than you do.
Cheers,
Oh, and if the "Lam'0 Pie" nick is what irked you, no disrespect intended Michael, just trying to lighten things up.
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stools are a traditional clf weapon.
Fairfax Jiu-Jitsu
there are a few "tricks" that i still use in my fighting that I learned from kung fu.
but the truth is that it's probably about 1%.
Lama Pai & Choy Lay Fut
Yum Cha
Fair and Reasonable reply.
I didn't mean to come off so harsh regarding the stool.
Here are a few points to clarify:
I did start a CMA business thread. The state of CM school is so poor in most states. They are not run professionally, they don't offer good service and they don't understand how to train students so that don't quit. Think about it. Why is there a 20:1 ratio of Japanese and Korean schools to KF schools? Becaue there arts are easier? Think again. Because most CM school owners think they are living in a shaw brothers movie. Not to mention, there are very FEW successful KF schools in the coutry, so not too many role models for current and new instructors.
CM school owners need to update their businesses, and their teaching so that our arts can prosper. It's not just about making a good living. It's about doing the right things to promote your art to more people (assuming that is what one wants)
And am I being innovative? Hardly. I just apply business stragies and use professional models of success businesses. Some martial arts schools, some not.
Am I teaching like my Sifu did? Hell No! That method attracted a few dozens new students a year and kept a small handfull for a decade or so. Not very successful. Some people might say: "well, if he produced one good student, than he was a success." In some people's minds, the one's who have LOW expectations,..yes, that is a success. It's just not what I'm expecting and certainly less than what I can accomplish.
Moo Moo
Just to clear things up.
The form was posted in a Chinese KF forum.
I did not come up with the form.
I like it. There are some good ideas in them, some are practical, some may not be ok.
The creator may know some Shaolin Long fist and basic sword play.
He used the stool as if a broadsword or straightsword. He used the stool to fend off attacks and then punch, kick, elbow strikes etc.
Since there are good and valid elements in them. Nobody criticised the form in the Chinese KF forum.
They only requested who ever know more about the this, please perform them with a stool.
The stool may do downward Pi like a Dao due to weight, but there is no blade.
The stool may point or Dian, stab or Chi like a straight sword, etc.
It is just for fun and comparative study only.
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my older brother showed me that a number of years ago. the vhs quality was kinda bad, tho. the wushu for the dragon bench section was pretty creative. a nice twist was that he knew the set well enough to pick up where the class was and continue as the master 'instructed' him.
when they went to the gymnasium/school to find the monk it seemed a bit west side storyish in terms of the choreography before the individual fight scene.
kool posts: 10 points for out of the box librarian!
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sifu's should not sacrifice their teaching quality for 2 year programs. Otherwise you have people like dale douglas who think you can learn iron palm in 2 years.
Mouthboxer Deprogammer
My name for the record is Dale Dugas.
Your name on the other hand is not what you claim it to be.
Iron skills do not take 20 +years to attain and anyone who says that is full of poo poo.
If your going to drop my name at least spell it right, son.
Do you not think it unwise that I can attain that skill in almost a 1/10th of what you profess it to take?
You hear anyone else talk about taking decades to see results.
Again you open your mouth and show you total ineptitude and total lack of real training.
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.
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So are you saying you can stop a bullet with your hand?
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and here's your limitation of liability agreement. maybe we can get dale to hold that fool...
...and here's a nice refreshment you can enjoy:
sorry, dale. i'm a bit of a moderate on this and most issues. yiu se ut as not as difficult to master. people whom have tried periodically over time have taken decades to master it. if you spend eight hours a day every day it should take you three years to do well enough to anticipate the firing of a bullet, not flinch, and swat that little slug outta the air. my wildcat .4295" is travelling at 4000 fps at the muzzle with a 180 grain bullet. if you can knock it outta the sky standing 100meters from the gun you get the gun. the bullet travels that distance before you can see the smoke.
combining sitori with iron palm for this kind of dodge and swat effect probably would take a decade.
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not to mention pi da training for when you miss the swat.and here's your limitation of liability agreement. maybe we can get dale to hold that fool...
...and here's a nice refreshment you can enjoy:
sorry, dale. i'm a bit of a moderate on this and most issues. yiu se ut as not as difficult to master. people whom have tried periodically over time have taken decades to master it. if you spend eight hours a day every day it should take you three years to do well enough to anticipate the firing of a bullet, not flinch, and swat that little slug outta the air. my wildcat .4295" is travelling at 4000 fps at the muzzle with a 180 grain bullet. if you can knock it outta the sky standing 100meters from the gun you get the gun. the bullet travels that distance before you can see the smoke.
combining sitori with iron palm for this kind of dodge and swat effect probably would take a decade.
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if he actually stood there and let me do it i'd probably settle for a nice tipsy movement with the swat...as long as he wasn't grazed.
Cha Wang
No Worries Lama Pai Guy. Its all good.
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