Talking Behind Your Back!
I was approached yesterday by a student of one of the kung fu clubs in San Francisco Chinatown about the reason why I have chosen to formulate the "Tung Mo" methods of boxing, his name is not important but he stated to me that there was discontent between me and my HS CLF sifu. As I stated my position he went on to state things to me that very negative things about my me and my kung fu learning and believe you me I've heard these things before. I have chosen to put this out to the general public and afterward I will cease from visiting these forums in the future.
Some of the things stated to me were:
A. I haven't been a consistant student of Hung Sing
B. My Eight Immortals Style is a fluke
C. My association with Chiu Chi Ling
D. I don't support HS CLF and there ideals
among others but I will deals with these for now stating my position.
Yes, it's true I haven't been a consistant student of the SF HS CLF school, in the sense that I haven't been there continuously. I have learned the core teachings of this school and frankly I am satisfied. Prior to joining this school I already had a strong background in kung fu and quite frankly didn't feel the need to keep learning repetitive skills, for example, I knew weapons from the other styles and would only learn a different variation of the same movement. Prior to my training in choy lee fut I was experienced in B. Sil Lum, Hung Gar and Wing Chun, to some of my classmates they may not have known this but to Sifu Dino I showed him when I first started with him some of the things I learned, also during those times I was learning other things (Y.C. Chiang and Cheuk Fung), so quite naturally I couldn't be everywhere all the time. Let It be known that yes I also was studying the Chan Family branch under Choy Siu Ming student of Chan Leung, learning skills from the other side of the street for my own gratification, this was due to the fact that oneday Doc Fai Wong did a article in inside kung fu magazine years ago about "Buddha Palm", the article stated that he was the only one teaching it in the area, I stated to my sifu how could he make such a claim when he was teaching choy lee fut too, (in my ignorance), Sifu Dino then went on to explain to me the history of San Francisco Hung Sing and the changes Lau Bun made, at this time I felft compelled to seek the original methods, shortly thereafter I would meet Doc Fai Wong, and years later I would learn from Choy Siu Ming.
My Eight Immortals Style is very real, and because one doesn't know that it exist doesn't make it false. There are many people that I have met through association of Chiu Chi Ling that have told me they knew my Sigung in China, and no I don't feel its necessary to have to prove things to anyone, the proof is in the skills and if it's appliable, and yes I do hold all family records and manuals and am in the process of having this work translated.
My association with Chiu Chi Ling is purely that of friendship, yes the man has fine tuned me on some of my hung gar skills, but no I am not learning from him. It is from from Chiu Chi Ling that I've been able to advance my name in the kung fu world, it is from him that many people called me staing they saw me on Hong Kong Television, this would not have happened if not for him, he is responsible for me meeting many of the old school teachers etc. I value our friendship very much and wishes it to continue for years to come.
To that of me not supporting Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut ideals, I say i'm past this now, there was a time that I was hot for Hung Sing, but now I don't see a Hung Sing, Chan Family, Buk Sing etc, it's all choy lee fut, only branches cause division and with divisions there can never be unity. I am my own man, therefore I must make decision that feel right to me, there are some instances with me that doesn't feel right concerning Futsan CLF, but that's just me regardless of my sifu and classmatesthink or feel, I don't see things just because others see it that way, for example Doc Fai Wong, ever since I met the man he's been totally nice to me, never had a bad thing to say about my Sifu or SiGung, this is talking to the man face to face, he's always treated me with respect and so the views that I previously had of him without getting to know him had to subside after I got to know him, because he wasn't the person I conjured up to be, likewise his son and I have developed a friendship.
No, Tung Mo hasn't derived because of some discontent between me and Sifu Dino, Tung Mo is me, how I see, how I am able to work it out. Through the years I often mixed styles in fighting, I have just formalized what I've been doing all along. First and foremost my loyalty has been to my first Sifu Yuan Chan, this is the one who started me on my path of self expression through chinese martial arts. My mind set isn't of early centuries, I tell my students our obligation is on a month to month basis, you pay your dues this month i'm obligated to teach you this month when the month is over our obligations to each other is finished unless we start it over again. I know things are said about me and frankly it doesn't bother me, kung fu is a hobby, it's nice that someone feels I have some knowledge that they would like to learn. In this world there are talkers and doers, the talkers get no where and the doers are able to reach great heights.
May The Spirit Of Chinese Kung Fu Be With You!
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Originally Posted by hasayfu
