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    Still slightly OT

    More fake monks - not Shaolin - but in NYC and it made the Late Show with Stephen Colbert last night.

    NYC Buddhists warn of 'fake monks' who get hostile if tourists don't give them money


    In this June 23, 2016 photo, a man who says he is a Buddhist monk hands a medallion to a woman as he solicits donations on New York City's Times Square. Leaders of New York City's Buddhist community said that men in orange robes seeking donations near New York's popular tourist attractions are fakes, posing as monks to trick people into giving up their money. (AP Photo/Michael Balsamo)

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    on June 27, 2016 at 1:22 AM, updated June 27, 2016 at 1:33 AM

    NEW YORK — New York City Buddhist leaders are sounding the alarm to tourists: Beware the "fake monks."

    Men in orange robes claiming to be Buddhist monks are approaching visitors to some of the city's most popular attractions, handing them shiny medallions and offering greetings of peace. They then hit them up for donations to help them build a temple in Thailand, and are persistent if their demands are refused.

    "The problem seems to be increasing," said the Rev. TK Nakagaki, president of the Buddhist Council of New York, a group that represents nearly two dozen Buddhist temples. "They are very aggressive and hostile if you don't give them money."

    His group has taken to the streets and social media to warn people that the men appear to have no affiliation to any Buddhist temple. "Please be aware," read one Facebook post, "this is a scam."

    Along the popular High Line elevated park, one of the robed men handed a couple a shiny, gold-colored medallion and a plastic beaded bracelet. He then showed them photos of a planned temple and barked, "Ten dollars! Twenty dollars!" When they wouldn't give up cash, he snatched the trinkets back.

    Other brightly robed men have been spotted pulling the same routine, albeit more successfully, in Times Square, not far from where costumed characters such as Elmo, Minnie Mouse and the Naked Cowboy take pictures with tourists for tips. Some of the monks were later seen handing wads of cash to another man waiting nearby.

    The Associated Press tried to ask more than half-dozen of the men about their background and the temple they said the donations were being used to support. Each claimed to be a Buddhist monk collecting money for a temple in Thailand, but none could give its name or say where exactly it is located. All the men refused to give their names and ran off when pressed for answers.

    The men first started appearing at the High Line, a New York City public park that's maintained by a private nonprofit group, about three years ago, said Robert Hammond, executive director of Friends of the High Line. But it "became excessive" in the past year, he said, with up to a dozen of the men accosting tourists at once and sometimes grabbing them to demand cash.

    Panhandling on city streets isn't illegal in New York, as long as the person isn't acting aggressively. But the city's parks department has a rule that says it is unlawful to solicit money without a permit from the parks commissioner.

    When asked about the men, New York City Parks Commissioner Mitchell Silver initially said, "I have no idea what you're talking about." He later said that if the men aren't abiding by the law, "the parks enforcement patrol will take care of it."

    But parks department spokeswoman Crystal Howard said parks enforcement officers hadn't issued any summonses and the men's actions were "aggressive panhandling," a violation of state law that would be enforced by police. New York City police say that in the rare cases when someone has called 911 against the men, they were usually gone by the time officers arrived.


    In Wednesday, June 22, 2016 photo, pedestrians pass a warning sign on panhandlers on The High Line, one of New York City's most visited attractions.
    AP Photo/Frank Franklin II

    A few days after the AP inquired about the men on the High Line, several signs were posted there with photos of them, warning visitors not to give money to panhandlers.

    Similarly robed men have been spotted in San Francisco, asking tourists to sign their "peace petition" before demanding cash. In China, authorities said the problem of "fake" monks begging in the streets prompted them to create an online registry of all actual Buddhist and Taoist sites.

    In Times Square, the warnings came too late for tourist Rob Cardillo, of Pennsylvania. He gave a robed man $10 to help out with his temple, without ever asking anything about the temple or what the money would be used for.

    "He might be fake, but it's the thought and I feel it," Cardillo said as he gripped the gold medallion.
    I've dealt with such pitches in S.F.
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    Same in China. They can be spotted a mile away because they're usually wearing Jiefang Xie (Liberation Shoes) most migrant workers wear, like army green Feiyue, and shorts or some other kind of unfitting pant under the outer robe. They never seem to have the whole getup.

    It probably works well in China because there are many "cultural Buddhists" who actually know little to nothing about Buddhism.

    I always ask them to recite the Heart Sutra first. That drives them away quickly before their cover is blown in front of everyone.

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    Maybe they belong to SHAOLIN DO.....(i'll repost it, i swear :O)
    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Dwyane Wade falls for the Shaolin fake out

    I was going to comment on the original post that the 'monks' didn't look like official Shaolin reps, but it's been a long time since I've been there, so I refrained. Looks like some things haven't changed.

    Dwyane Wade was escorted around Shaolin Temple by fake Shaolin monks



    China runs rampant with fakes, a fact that Dwyane Wade should be aware of as he embarks on his latest collaboration with Li-Ning. On his China tour to promote his new "Way of Wade" brand, Wade was given a first-hand lesson in this during his stop at the world-famous Shaolin Temple, where he was escorted around by a pair of fake monks.
    During his time at Shaolin, Wade and his wife was photographed burning incense and learning kung fu with the help of his wise monk guides. But after further inspection of those photos, it turns out that the "monks" weren't wearing the correct clothing and weren't from Shaolin. Furthermore, the temple has denied that it ever organized a tour for the visiting NBA superstar.
    In a statement, Shaolin Temple detailed how the publicity behind the illegitimate event had "confused netizens and negatively impacted Shaolin Temple's reputation." The 1,500 year old temple that is considered to be the birthplace of kung fu, has also threatened legal action against the individuals who damaged their sterling reputation.



    Along with the statement, the temple attached some pictures, pointing out how the man in the orange robe wasn't dressed properly for a monk and that none of the Shaolin monks recognize the man. Although it isn't clear if Wade's guides were monks or not, they definitely did not come from Shaolin.





    Well, it's no wonder that he was so bad at kung fu then! Seriously, though, how weird is this?
    By Sarah Lin
    [Images via People's Daily / Shaolin Temple]
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    The "monk" looks familiar

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I was going to comment on the original post that the 'monks' didn't look like official Shaolin reps, but it's been a long time since I've been there, so I refrained. Looks like some things haven't changed.
    I think he's the same monk as in this video


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