No apology needed. I usually tend to do those types of exercises at the end or toward the end of a work out.
No apology needed. I usually tend to do those types of exercises at the end or toward the end of a work out.
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Haven't read all of this thread yet, but this is not overtraining at all.Originally Posted by Trey
i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.
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Lifting for three hours per workout, three days per week is overtraining. Unless you want to stay skinny... or use streoids... but in either case you could still make your workout more efficent, and get better results, by training less.
But then you know this.
Touch to say if it's overtraining. The weight training would certainly be an x factor to push you over the edge as would lack of sleep.
yeah tell Bruce Lee or other top martial artist that weight lifting is pointless, they'll just laugh at you.
I started lifting weights last year and I don't do it consistent, but I do it enough and it made my kung fu way better. Especially if you weight lift along-side with doing kung fu workouts, your pretty much good to go.
How is push up better than bench press? It's almost the same technique!
Even if you weren't working out that's still not enough sleep.Run 2-4 miles 4:30am
Run for 30 minutes
sleep 11:30
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These might help:
Periodization Training For Sports by Tudor Bompa
Modern Trends In Strength Training by Charles Poliquin- this is great
Supertraining by Mel Siff
Articles by Ian King
Articles by Charles Staley
One interesting idea in all the above is that most training time could be used specifically doing kungfu and not spending hours in the gym lifting weights
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Hi, I'm new here
I've been practicing Martial Arts for many years, I initially started with Kung Fu using a mixed blend. As I got older I began to look into weight training & found that the best way is to use greater repetitions with lighter weights but seldom trained to failure.
Size or 'being big' isn't the objective as much as being hard. In fact, too much size is a disadvantage so I basically use lighter weights & as many as 100 reps. One has to explore by experimenting. Sometimes I'd lift a mere 10 kg some 50 - 100 times. However, the weight training process can be boring at times with so many reps. The best thing to do is to combine weight-lifting with other excercises so as not to lose track.
I hate to be the one to tell you dude, but Bruce Lee is dead. He died a long time ago.Originally Posted by wind draft
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Did you try the opposite - fewer reps with heavier weights? Didn't think so.Originally Posted by Tallgeese
And what makes one big? Do few sets of few reps and you won't get big. But you knew that right, from your learning over the years?Originally Posted by Tallgeese
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"I don't do much cardio." - Ironfist
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In reply to : Toby :I hate to be the one to tell you dude, but Bruce Lee is dead. He died a long time ago.
No Sh*T smarta$$.. I was making a statement, because some other guy say weight lifting was not good and body exercises with high reps are better and all I say was Bruce Lee AND OTHER PRO MARTIAL ARTIST LIFT WEIGHTS.
So before being a smarta$$ please read the other sh*t
^ Whoa, tough guy. You were talking about telling Bruce Lee in the present tense thus implying he was still alive. So before YOU start being a "smarta$$," get YOUR "sh*t" together, and by "sh*t" I mean "grammar."
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What do you mean "being hard?" You mean physically hard?Originally Posted by Tallgeese
Don't be too concerned about getting big. Developing big muscles is very difficult and, unless you are a genetic freak, requires a specific combination of weightlifting regimen, diet, sleep, and rest. There are people who spend years in the gym trying to "get big," who cannot do it, so I don't think you need to be worried about it accidently happening because you lift a few heavy weights. And even if you happened to have a perfect bodybuilder weightlifting program, which you don't, without eating like a bodybuilder, you're not going to get big.
No offence, but lifting weights for 50-100 reps is pretty useless. The only thing you're developing is the endurance to do that lift for 50-100 reps. You're not increasing your strength with a weight that is so low you can do 50 reps with it. Now, obviously you have the motivation if you're doing sets of 50, so you could probably get good results if you had a decent training program.One has to explore by experimenting. Sometimes I'd lift a mere 10 kg some 50 - 100 times. However, the weight training process can be boring at times with so many reps. The best thing to do is to combine weight-lifting with other excercises so as not to lose track.
Now, I'm not sure about "being hard," but I assume you mean so you can take a punch or whatever. I know some fat guys who are very soft who can take hard punches Anyway, I think you should look into a strength developing program. It is entirely possible to become VERY strong without gaining much size at all. Look at elite powerlifters who can deadlift 500lbs but who only weigh 130lbs; they are insanely strong and, obviously, aren't very big since they only weigh 130lbs. They're lifting over 3 times their bodyweight, which is amazing.
The way to develop strength without size is to do few sets of low reps with heavy weights and fairly long rest between your sets. Whereas a bodybuilder might do 6 sets of with a weight heavy enough that he can only do 10 reps, and rest 1 minute between each set, a powerlifter or strength athlete might only do 2 sets of 5 with a weight heavy enough that he can only do 6 reps (so he would be stopping before failure in this case), and might rest 5 minutes between each set. Another advantage of training for raw strength is that, often, it is counterproductive to train to failure, and is there fore safer and less painful Strength gains come primarily from neurological adaptation and not from muscle growth, and so the training is designed with that in mind.
Anyway, let us know if you're interested. But I assure you that, regardless of your goals, you don't need to be doing sets of 50-100 unless you're planning on entering a contest where you'll be judged on how many reps you can do.
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. Just thought you might appreciate the heads up on Bruce.Originally Posted by wind draft
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"I don't do much cardio." - Ironfist
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Now we're talking.Originally Posted by IronFist
Finally got the 400 DL today - 402.34lb. Decent form, felt strong.
"If trolling is an art then I am your yoda.if spelling counts, go elsewhere.........." - BL
"I don't do much cardio." - Ironfist
"Grip training is everything. I say this with CoC in hand." - abobo