Questions about Tai Shing Pek Kwar

[MonkeyKingUSA]

Does anyone know who may have posed for the photo of Cho Chat Ling on Zink's website? It seems risky to provide a picture of someone who supposedly does not exist.
Has anyone ever made an actual inquiry into the existance of Cho Chat Ling?
Has anyone ever asked YC Wong's opinion of Zink? Have they asked whether he has seen Zink doing Pek Kwar forms? Any YC Wong students here?

If I seem to ask a lot of pointed questions, it is because I have seen martial arts politics in action many times over the years. Hung Gar has had very heated feuds where one side has claimed the other is not "legitimate". Seven Star Praying Mantis has had the same feuding in the past between Wong Hon Fan and Chiu Chi Man lineage disciples. One still is not allowed to associate with certain teachers even within the same lineage without risking excommunication.
So I have wondered if this may be what has happened here. One instructor stepping on the toes or glory of another.

So far, three of you have made a strong case for CSC's opinion. However, I don't think the case is closed yet.
Thanks again for all of your input!

[Faruq]

Didn't CSC publically state on his old website that no one had ever heard of Cho Chat Ling, and that he appeared on no sifu's lineage chart?

[Flying-Monkey]

Does anyone know who may have posed for the photo of Cho Chat Ling on Zink's website? It seems risky to provide a picture of someone who supposedly does not exist.
Has anyone ever made an actual inquiry into the existance of Cho Chat Ling?
Has anyone ever asked YC Wong's opinion of Zink? Have they asked whether he has seen Zink doing Pek Kwar forms? Any YC Wong students here?

If I seem to ask a lot of pointed questions, it is because I have seen martial arts politics in action many times over the years. Hung Gar has had very heated feuds where one side has claimed the other is not "legitimate". Seven Star Praying Mantis has had the same feuding in the past between Wong Hon Fan and Chiu Chi Man lineage disciples. One still is not allowed to associate with certain teachers even within the same lineage without risking excommunication.
So I have wondered if this may be what has happened here. One instructor stepping on the toes or glory of another.

So far, three of you have made a strong case for CSC's opinion. However, I don't think the case is closed yet.
Thanks again for all of your input!

Dude, paulie Zink doesn't even teach kung fu anymore. He teaches yoga in Montana. He lives on a farm with his wife. i was shocked, because i thought he was gay.

Anyway
Forget about Zink.

[GreenCloudCLF]

Dude, paulie Zink doesn't even teach kung fu anymore. He teaches yoga in Montana. He lives on a farm with his wife. i was shocked, because i thought he was gay.

Anyway
Forget about Zink.

HAhAHAHA....I always thought this too looking at the pics in Inside Kung-Fu.

[Faruq]

I thought so because of his over the top accent, or the way he speaks (I saw his Taoist Yoga video).

[GreenCloudCLF]

I thought so because of his over the top accent, or the way he speaks (I saw his Taoist Yoga video).

And the hair....

[Shaolindynasty]

don't forget the mustache

[SifuAbel]

And that poked in the pooper look on his face.....................

[godzillakungfu]

Hate to do the TTT thing.

I know you are a very busy person LPS, I was wondering if you had a chance to find the third book.

I didn't realize I was sitting on the 2 books Ngo posted. I'm curious if I may be sitting on the third.

Thank You.

[MonkeyKingUSA]

So what has happened to the Tai Shing Pek Kwar Kung Fu Federation? I see their website is down and I heard that their school has closed in Vancouver. Is this true?
Does this have anything to do with their run in with Paulie Zink and his organization?

[CLFNole]

I seriously doubt a run in with Zink's crew would do nothing else but cause a few good laughs.

[Sang Feng Fan]

Zinc's "organization" has made it to New York.

He's had a student there teaching for over a year now.

http://www.wayofthenomad.com/index.aspx

[Yao Sing]

Zinc's "organization" has made it to New York.

He's had a student there teaching for over a year now.

http://www.wayofthenomad.com/index.aspx

Way Of The Nomad? Wasn't 'nomad' one of the clues to Noone's real identity on that nasty CTS thread?

[Eddie]

Hi,
Sifu Chow wanted me to post this a few weeks ago, but I only got time now. Sorry to bring up an old topic again.

Originally, Tai Sing Pek Gwa only had 3 forms and then 5 monkey forms (empty hand), during the years Kan Tak Hoi split some of the forms into shorter versions. What is now Pek Gwa road 1, Pek Gwa road 2 and Pek Gwa road 3 used to be one form. Pek Gwa palm and Ying yeung kuen made the other Pek Gwa forms.

The rest of the forms came from Hak Fu Kuen, My Jong Lohan, Lin Wan Kuen and a few other styles. They also have a Baji form which is like a Pek Gwarised baji form .

Anyways, heres Sifu Chow’s set list. These are only the forms he remembered when we went through the list, so Im sure there might be a few more. Pek Gwa training is more about fighting training, and less about forms. More important than forms are conditioning, and proper execution of basic strikes (pek choy and gwa choy) - just like is all modern fighting styles.

EXTERNAL FIST (外家拳術):
- Basic Training (基本功)
- Across Fist (劈掛膀手)
- Pek Kwar Basic Form (劈掛穿手)
- Pek Kwar 1st Fist (劈掛拳一路)
- Pek Kwar 2nd Fist (劈掛拳二路)
- Pek Kwar 3rd Fist (劈掛拳三路)
- Ying Yeung Fist (鴛鴦拳)
- Mi Chung(Lost Track) Fist (迷蹤拳)
- Serial Fist (連環拳)
- Black Tiger Fist (黑虎拳)
- Cat Fist (八把貓功)
- Soften Palm (綿掌)
- Pek Kwar Serial Palm (劈掛連環掌)
- Ye Long Fist (二郎拳)
- Pek Kwar Fist Shorten Style (劈掛短打)
- De Tong Combination Fist (地堂四平拳)
- Wu Son Breaking Manacled Fist (武松脫扣拳)
- Lost Monkey (迷猴拳)
- Drunken Monkey (醉猴拳)

INTERNAL FIST (內家拳術) :
- Chan’s Old Style Tai Chi (陳式老家太極拳)
- Tai Chi Practice Pushing Hand (太極推手)
- Tai Chi Wooden Ball Training (太極功力球)
- Stand Iron Piles (站樁功)
- Ba Gua Palm (遊身八卦掌)
- Ba Chi Fist (八極拳)

BOARDSWORDS (刀術) :
- Both Hand Holding Bare (双手刀)
- Pek Kwar Single Bare (劈掛單刀)
- Ba Gua Double Bare (八卦双刀)
- Calm Ma Boardsword (斬馬刀)
- Chun Char Boardsword (春秋大刀)
- Pok Boardsword (撲刀)

SPEAR (槍術) :
- Serial Spear (連環槍)
- Two Ways Spear (双頭槍)
- Snake Spear (蛇茅)
- Kei Moon Spear (奇門槍)
- Luk Hop Long Spear (六合大槍)

SWORDS (劍術) :
- Pek Kwar Sword (劈掛劍)
- Jin Wu Sword (真武劍)
- Aun Ying Sword (雁形劍)
- Serial Sword (進退連環劍)
- Wu Tong Sword (武當劍)
- Wu Tong Swordplay Sequence (武當劍對練)

STAFF (棍術) :
- Kow Chou Staff (九洲棍)
- Pek Kwar Staff (劈掛棍)
- Yen Hand Staff (陰手棍)
- 2 Sections Staff (大掃子)
- 3 Sections Staff (三節棍)
- Monkey Staff (猴子天門棍)

OTHER WEAPONS (其他兵器) :
- Pek Kwar Silver Hammer (劈掛双槌)
- Dragon Double Metal Rods (龍頭双鐧)
- Tiger Double Hook (虎頭双鉤)
- Pek Kwar Broadaxe (劈掛追風斧)
- Pek Kwar Half Moon (護手陰陽月)
- Fong Tin Halberd (方天畫戟)
- 9 Sections Whip (九節鞭)
- Luk Hop Chinese Scholar’s Brush Pen (六合判官筆)
- Lan Ma Rods (攔馬蹶)

FIST PRACTICING SEQUENCE (拳術對練) :
- Pek Kwar Fist (劈掛拳對打)
- De Tong Fist (地堂拳對打)
- Monkey Fist (猴拳對打)
- Grapping Skill (擒拿散手)

WEAPON AGAINST SEQUENCE (兵器對練) :
- Single Bare Against Spear (單刀戰槍)
- Double Bare Against Spear (双刀戰槍)
- Pok Broadsword Against Spear (撲刀戰槍)
- 2 Sections Staff Against Spear (大掃子戰槍)
- 3 Sections Staff Against Spear (三節棍戰槍)
- Shaolin Staff Practicing Sequence (劈掛棍對打)

[Eddie]

One more thing. Unlike popular belief, Tai Shing Pek Gwar isn’t really based on Monkey. Monkey part of Tai Shing Pek Gwar is only taught in advanced levels. Pek Gwar is a different style, and so its not entirely correct to say that TSPG is based on the movements of the monkey. Most TSPK student wouldn’t know the monkey forms.