To anyone who is reading this who is affiliated with James Shuyn's version of 8step praying mantis including you Chaoticmantis. I am going to set the record straight once and for all in regards to James Shuyn's fourth generation and being soul inheriter.

I promised myself I would never give my opinions or facts about James Shuyn on this forum. Unfortuneatly Chaoiticmantis has left me no choise being he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Lemme start off by saying in response to your comment I am yesterdays news and I moved on is far from the truth. I am still actively teaching 8step in Los Angelas and San Francisco and also studying the original authentic version of 8step in San Jose with Master Chang. Master Chang has been a great source of information and I consider him the for-most authority on the original 8step praying mantis system in America. Unfortuneatlly I can't study with him as much as I like but I still consider him as my teacher. I plan to open a school in the Bay Area in 2006. From what Sifu Chang told me James Shuyn is not and was never the fourth generation soul inheriter of eight step praying mantis. Master Chang is a gentlemen and has never said a bad word about James Shuyn. All he told me is the truth about James Shuyn.

Everybody including me has been decieved for many many years. I personally don't have a problem with that because i have no regrets. I learned a great system from a great teacher even though he was not honest with me all those years when I was affiliated with him. I know for a fact, I was there when he was adding joint locks and throws to the system. He took most of the information from various martial arts books. he also gave the impression he knew ground fighting I trained with him everyday for three years and was his number one student and I never once saw him do low mantis or ground fighting forms or sets even though he said it was in the system. Once in while he would show one or two movements and say that is was from the ground fighting mantis and that was it. But looking back through the years I know thats all he knew if not I would have learned it.

By the way Chaoticmantis, Im sorry to say you are delusionary. You don't know what your talking about and I could say that with all honesty especially when your talking about me and what was taught in the school. I don't know why you have this obsession about talking about things you know nothing about. I don't remember you being with James Shuyn everyday like I was in the begining. I learned nine sets that were supposedly originally from 8step now I know they're not the sets Master Wei taught. There are a lot of similarities but they are not the same. I also know all the eights(eight fist, eight hands, eight palms,etc...) were not part of Master Wei's 8step system. There were a lot of things he taught that were not a part of Master Wei's 8step system, but it was good information for what it was and it taught me how to be a good fighter, and just for the record I was his best fighter. If anyone things otherwise you can come to San Francisco and pay me a visit.

Chaoticmantis, as far as about you talking smack about me. you and everybody else who trained with James Shuyn back then, never completed the system or opened a school or taught anybody. You talked but you never walked. I was the ONLY fifth generation that came out of the system, there was nobody else. For years and years I was the only one spreading Shuyn's version of 8step in the country. So you really don't have a lot to say about anything Chaoticmantis(KIM) especially my dirty laundry. I personally don't care what old students said or didn't say about me. My goal was not to win a popularity contest, but to spread the art, something that you never did.

As far as Earthdragon, everything he says is the truth in regards to 8step and James Shuyn. He was and still is my best student. He is overly enthusiastic about the system and tries to find the truth in all the bulls****. Everything he has written about James Shuyn is true. I'm sorry that he was decieved as I was, but he doesn't give up and he still practices and teaches. I give him all the credit he deserves.

So just for the record, anyone who is studing with James Shuyn keep studing with him because he is a good teacher. What he is teaching is a good fighting system if you could learn to apply it. (But just remember to all you federation people out there, as I stated before I came to the realization through a great deal of research and being accepted as a student of Master Chang, that James Shuyn is not what he says he is.)