Sheesh Dan, I didn’t mean for you to get so agro over this. I never insulted you, I also didn’t mean to seem like a wise ass, I just commented on something I think I know a little of. Its not something I googled or found info on at wikipedia either.
Dan, the word “ Boer” is really a racist comment, typical to how you would see the word “******”. I’m not sure where you got that from, and Im not sure if that was your intention, but just so you know. I wont go and take offence to that either, stuff like that really don’t phase me much.
Because I’m white that means I’m not African?
So all Americans are not Americans just because their Ancestors came from Europe too? That’s a ridiculous statement, and not a very mature one either. My native home language is an African Language. Its not spoken anywhere else in the world, it was created here and it is spoken down here. By blacks, by coloureds (what we call people with both black and white ancestry) and by white people. Actually, my language is called Afrikaans (in my language Africa is Afrika) and they call my “people” “Afrikaners”, which means Africans. But arguing about this with someone who doesn’t come from here, is silly really. You really don’t know anything about this place, or its people.
Yep, it’s a fantasy. Just as it is a fantasy to call my self European. I cant even trace my family tree back (with certainty) for more than about 5 generations, so in the same way it would be ridiculous for me to even call myself European then, right? Funny, really. Are you African, or are you American? By your definition then, you have little right to claim either, really. We seem to be in the same boat then. Can we swap sides?
I’d love to live in the states…
I see what allot of people are trying to sell as African, which is not even close to that. Culture, art, religion, whatever. That’s really what that comment of mine was based on. I also didn’t direct it at you, just in general. I stick to that. You really have no idea what Africa is all about.
I do apologize, I took your nickname for your real name. Mayete is a common Sotho Name. Just for interest sake, in Zulu, Umuzi means “ House”.
I am a native to Africa. I have close to 31 years of PRACTICAL life experience in Africa, and African culture. I have been in quit a few fights with “Africans”, I have been stabbed by “Africans”, I have been held up with an AK 47 by “Africans”, I have cried with “ Africans” and I have laughed with “ Africans”. I deal with “Africans” every single day of my life. One of my best friends is a black South African. We are pretty close, and have gone through allot of things together. He is from a long line of Swazi Warrior family, and we share allot of things about martial arts. He is actually sitting here with me as I am typing, and he is laughing and making fun of me for this whole entire post, and your reply. My other Kung Fu training partner is Sotho (he is even related to one of the big opposition Politicians). He’s also done Xhosa stick fighting, Capoeira, and other "African" fighting arts, and we share allot of ideas about that too. Down here, in just about all of the native black cultures, all boys must go through initiation school. It is there where they all learn the finer things about their culture and ways. They also learn how to be a warrior and how to fight. A man is not a man, if he cannot fight. Fortunatly, being a white guy, I did not go through initiation school as them, but for the past 30 years I have lived closely together with people who has. We grew up together, and we lived and live along side each other. Closer than you can ever imagine. Most importantly, I see their culture and their way of doing things, every single day. We have also borrowed from each other’s cultures and ways over the last few centuries. So, I might not have allot of knowledge about this as you do, but I do still think I am qualified enough to comment, hence my replies.
I wasn’t even close to being a wise ass as you stated. I commented on the validity of African arts, and how allot of non Africans view African combat arts. When I say Non Africans, I include “ African Americans” (unless of course you actually lived in Africa like a Real African ). I did not question your knowledge of the art, I just stated my opinion that I think most of what is being sold as African, is clearly not.
Sorry, but that is probably the biggest bunch of nonsense I have ever read. But even so, my ancestors are also from Africa, somewhere along the lines they came from Europe, but the only ones I know of, all came from down here. Anthropologists also seem to be thinking that the San people were also not as pure as we think. There are actually some historians that think the Chinese and Indians were the first foreigners to visit this continent. The San people do have some Chinese features if you look closely. They also have Portuguese blood too. And Dutch. Oh yeah, and while on the subject, they speak the same language as I do. Just about all of the “ Bushmen” (what we call the Koi san people) actually speak our language much better than I do.
Now there we speak the same language. Typical African thing to say. I can take just as much as I can dish, but I didnt eve start to dish out.
I will make a new post just below this one, where I will explain African arts and how I see it. Will even try to get a “ Real” African with knowledge on this matter to post here (maybe by the weekend). Hopefully by the time you get to read this, I would have posted it (its business hours now and i have to work too)
I recommended you look into a system called – the Piper system. If you want to know what real African Arts are all about, that would be a good place to start.
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