Shaolin Vagabond Guy

[jethro]

I don't know a lot of the forms you guys bring up like bot bo, but it just looks like the guy is going at it half ass.

[Water Dragon]

flowery fist and brocade legs

[SPJ]

I used to grow long hairs and have a pony tail back in college days in the 80'.

however, I have to cut short in the beginning of a semester. Because of hair code and dress code in college. however, the military instructor or Jiao Guan always gave me huge leeway. meaning we met each other half way. so I cut my hairs to shoulder length so that I may grow longer faster later on. so when registration time came, Jiao Guan just looked the other way.

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For dress;
a pair of dark pants with white t-shirt and maybe some tie up (Ban Tui) above ankles would be enough nowadays.

the long pony tail is over done as pointed out.

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[The Xia]

A long ponytail and a Manchu queue are two different things.

[golden arhat]

i didnt think qing dynasty hairstyles were cool with most han chinese

[David Jamieson]

hairstyles of 100+ years ago are pretty out there, but have little to do with kungfu.

anyway, his bsl ain't that great and you're right jethro, it is half assed.
If people want to learn half assed then that's up to them I guess.

[Ravenshaw]

It's a free country. You can teach what you learn if you can find some chump who actually wants to learn it... Also doesn't mean you've actually learned what the teacher was teaching.

All true. However, qualifications and freedoms are different. He may be free to do it, but is he qualified to do so? The only reason I ever taught was because my teacher asked me to. I am not qualified to open my own school and accept students of my own, though.

[Ravenshaw]

On the previous thread, Gene says he thinks the guy learned at Lam Kwoon. Generally I cede to what Gene says, but I'm still not so sure.

He could be a video student, but I'm guessing he isn't. Remember I wrote those videos. For the earlier sets, I can usually pinpoint some one who's learned from videos pretty easily. He missed a detail early on that was quite explicit in the videos. Now, he could have just overlooked that when he watched the videos, but since it was early on and since it was explicit, I'm inclined to beleive it was a person-to-person transmission.

By the way, this is referencing this guy's Bot Bo

The funny thing is that the missed detail is one reason I do think he's a video student. Right before the first back sweep, he misses some stance shifts. They may have been emphasized in the video lessons, but take a look at Sifu Wing Lam's demonstration of the set from the same instructional video. There's the very same omission. To me, it looks like a mistake on the video that showed up in the video student's set.

Secondly, Gene doesn't know the guy, and he was at the Wing Lam school for decades. Gene left in early 2002 if I remember correctly, but I left in 2005. During that time, I was training and teaching at Lam Kwoon six days a week and I knew all the instructors and most students. I don't know this guy. If someone stuck with BSL at Lam Kwoon long enough to learn #8, I would have most likely remembered him. So I'm pretty sure he was never at the main school, unless he started sometime after I left in August 2005 and before all the classes dissolved in January 2006.

The only other explanation of which I can think is that (1) he learned from one of the daughter schools, (2) he was a morning BSL student back when we had the morning class, which seems unlikely because I think Justin taught that class and he was a hardass for details, or (3) he was a private student.

Given all that, the video comparison definately leads me to believe he's a video student. But my sihing has shot me down before, so I could be wrong.

[The Xia]

Video student or not I doubt Wing Lam told this guy that he is ready to teach. His look makes it far worse. People like that give a bad name to Kung Fu. Sifu Wing Lam may want to take a look at these videos.

[David Jamieson]

I'm not sure what purpose it serves to bother with anything more than simply noting that it isn't up to snuff really. People can call themselves whatever they like. This dude is just one more in a long line of many who call themselves this or that.

Indifference is the correct tool in this matter. making a bunch of noise about it just creates controversy which in turn actually lends more creedance to what he is doing than not.

[The Xia]

Picture it this way David. Let's say you are a Sifu and some guy takes a few classes and then goes out and teaches your material poorly. On top of that, he claims he is in your lineage. Can you see how this may upset you?

[David Jamieson]

well, im not a sifu but i understand your point. however, it would be found out, such as it has been here and other places or through word of mouth in which case it would all be regarded as mere vaniloquence and there would be nothing to be upset about.

[The Xia]

You know how gullible the average person is when it comes to martial arts. Most don't even bother to do research.

[Becca]

Unfotunately true... I am reading a book by one of my favorite stupid-book authors. She has made several blunders along those lines. Most of them have been along the lines of how a very good fighter has no need to practice skills they've already mastered and how a smaller person can never through a bigger person.

Though, as most of here readers are likely clueless about martial arts of any kind, I doubt she really cares. The sad part is, some of her readers will see that, assume she did do here research, and take that drivle as fact. And having it in thier head as fact, they might assume a truelly good teacher is full of B.S. because what that person is teaching contradicts what So-and-so wrote in a romance novle once...

[The Xia]

I guess they needed an "exotic hobby".