Heard he's going to compete in MMA (or "NHB" whatever you'd call them) rule matches... anyone know anything about this?
Heard he's going to compete in MMA (or "NHB" whatever you'd call them) rule matches... anyone know anything about this?
I checked his official website. No word about any MMA match coming up. It'd be interesting to see him in the UFC tho. I'd like to see him get his a$$ kicked. I can't stand that guy.
" I'd like to see him get his a$$ kicked. I can't stand that guy." i've heard the same type of thing from a few people that have met him.
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I don't believe he would get his ass kicked. His stand-up skills are quite good. If he became a sprawl and brawler, using throws to attain dominant positions, he'd be tough to beat.
Where he might lose is to a submission specialist or an excellent clinch fighter. The slower pace (in the sense that clinches are not broken), would change that aspect considerably.
While I could be wrong, where Cung stands now probably makes him an B+ level fighter. Experience and some more ground experience would quickly put him at A level.
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all things aside, i would agree with mp.
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I agree with MP. The feeling I get is that he likes to be a big fish in what he does, make his money, and not get busted up to bad by being taken down and pounded. Can't blame him.
As I recall, Le has done well in his limited international appearances, no?
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He won a Shidokan tournament. The last rounds of the fight allow for ground fighting with MMA gloves. If a fight goes passed the bare-knuckle full-contact karate rounds and by the MT rounds, you switch gloves and go on to MMA. The event is marketed as the triathalon of martial arts.
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lol, i don't doubt it. The guy seems so full of himself. They need to find him some better opponents, or he should branch out to K-1 rules or MMA. I think he'd hold his own pretty well in MMA if he had a competent submission game, but I don't think he'd be dominant. His striking is solid but from what I've seen he's not a strong brawler or a knock out artist. He is an exceptional takedown artist, but in MMA that won't help you much without a dominant ground game.i've heard the same type of thing from a few people that have met him.
One of of my instructors is currently working for Cung Le as a trainer and as far as I know Cung Le will not be fighting in MMA anytime soon. He has been bringing in a Jiu Jitsu expert for his classes though and I guess he has part of an octagon set up. I was told that they have been incorporating MMA style training into the san shou classes. You may see fighters from his gym fighting in MMA in the future, I'm not sure. As far as his groundskills go, he has training in wrestling, sambo and BJJ, so I'm sure he could handle himself on the ground.
Last edited by Sim Koning; 06-14-2005 at 12:20 PM.
got this from an MMA forum
does anyone know if its true? it will be good to see how san shou works in MMA.
he does have a wrestling background
My Headcoach Cung Le will bring San Shou to MMA
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Ok guys. Cung Le has been my head coach for years. I know him very well more than any of you here. He is 34 yrs old now. He has the best judo, greco roman wrestling, mongolian freestyle wrestling techniques. His hands are good but it's his kicks that makes him stand out especially that powerful side kick. In his gym, he has a great Jiu Jitsu coach, Garth Taylor who used to train BJ Penn. One of his San Shou student, James Fanshier was the middle or light heavy weight of the KOTC. Even Josh Koshcheck trained in our gym for a brief period after the TUF 1. American Kickboxing Academy fighters cross train with Cung Le's gym a lot before a fight. I think Coach Cung Le will dominate in the March fight. But I have doubts if he will do well in UFC if put on his back or has good submission defense. Like Mirko CroCop said everybody loses in MMA. I have feeling Coach Cung might get submitted by a BJJ expert.
I've read he was making the switch to MMA as well and would like to see how his style changes. I'm doubting he's going to use his cross scissor sweep .... it gets you points for a take down in San Shou, but doesn't give you much of a positional advantage to continue fighting from.
Will be interesting. He definitely has more to lose than gain.
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i was about to say that, i seen it done before, i think it was gomi that caught someone from chute box with a heel hook. it can be done but its very risky, you miss it you get stomp or punched out.Originally Posted by MasterKiller