Wing Chun/fight other styles

[Emeraldphoenix]

I am not trolling or trying to start flame war.


I am curious if you guys ever spar other styles. It seems that i only ever see you sparring with in your own style.

I took Wing Chun for about 6 months and i have respect for the style. It just wasnt my cup of tea. I always hear stuff like, " other styles cant handle our tech." General stuff like that.

So any one that is stictly a wing chun practioner, have any experiences of fighting other styles i would love to get some feed back.

[Fajing]

I personally like to spar practitioners from other styles. A few of my buddies practice various arts like BJJ, Boxing, and Karate. It's fun to mix it up with them. Strengthen your own game by knowing what's out there. We all learn from each other. What is your preferred style?

[Emeraldphoenix]

I am with you on mixing it up with various styles. Just have a hard time finding any wing chun people that will venture outside of their style. That is why i posted the question. I study 7 * currently.

This issue of going outside your style is not limited to wing chun it just seems that it goes on more so in wing chun.

[fiamacho]

We have always encouraged sparring and competing with students from other styles, it is the only way to really sharpen up your skills.

What I have noticed over the years is that Wing Chun practitioners always seem to have a problem defending against styles that love to predominantly kick or lately grapple. I have always thought of this as just a mindset thing as a lot of the "sparring" seems to based around hand techniques only.

[viper]

Yeh 4sure I love sparring other systems its like they dont know me I dont know them its great. When you fight wc vs wc they know what youre gna do unless ur like our school we somtimes take other sysytem techs. Our school higher encourages spreading our wings so to speak but I agree alot no this works against a wc guy no on the street it doesnt matter just stick to ur principles. Also at our school we have alot of really good tkd guys train with us for hands so I kinda get best of both worlds still love my hands but. Also my bjj teacher is fun for sparring with he was a wing chun sifu and a karate black belt so he knows all the tricks we haveso it dont matter brain vs brain i think. Soon im sparring a guy who learns arnis in the phillipines frm the gm hes bak coz my sifu who is also my buddy i live near is his friend n has arranged it im gna get whooped but I love the growth i will get frm it.

[Liddel]

Ive rolled with a few differnt styles of Karate, VT, kickboxers and MMA styles.

It took me a while to get to a place where i had enough confedence to approach strangers of other arts to spar, but some have become good friends and it was an invaluable experience.

For those that are approaching a level where they would feel comfortable to do so i would reccomend training with any other style because it makes your learning curve a little steeper


"So any one that is stictly a wing chun practioner, have any experiences of fighting other styles i would love to get some feed back."

My biggest test so far was sparring with my friend who is a member of a close protection squad for my countries diplomats - tough hombre's , mentally and physically -
They mainly use CQB and MMA techniques and approaches.

Im surprised how similar CQB tech's are to VT in relation to the straight foward approaches.

His MMA was far beyond my fighting ability (after all im not a proffesional) but during sparring, specifically being taken down, i realised my VT can help me in places on the ground and he helped me apply a VT mindset to a MMA style - subsequently he also adapted certain traits of my VT, such as elbows -
(mainly because of the smaller action with my VT elbow which makes it easier for him to smack suspects without on lookers being able to see it - yes they are a dodgie bunch !)

His first comment after we rolled was " you have very deceptive power"

[Jam_master]

I am not trolling or trying to start flame war.


I am curious if you guys ever spar other styles. It seems that i only ever see you sparring with in your own style.

I took Wing Chun for about 6 months and i have respect for the style. It just wasnt my cup of tea. I always hear stuff like, " other styles cant handle our tech." General stuff like that.

So any one that is stictly a wing chun practioner, have any experiences of fighting other styles i would love to get some feed back.

Every practitioner of any style, this includes wing chun partitioners too, need to always develop familiarity to moves not normaly familiar or inherent within their own style. Wing Chun people especially, need to continually train their touch sensory perception to recognize moves and techniques outside of the confines of chi sao, such as hooks, which I now to most WC practitioners it's considered an illegal action during double hand chi sao. To that I say yes and no. Yes! as a practitioner you should be endeavoring to keep your lines tight, but if the objective of chi sao is to sense openings and to train your hands to be perceptive, your training partner is going to need to throw an occasional hook, a kick, or a grapple for your sake so you can learn to recognize these actions. The Wing chun stylist can add more range to his wc if he experiments in this way. In fact! if your a grappler or Mixed Martial artist, you can also benefit enormously by doing some form of chi sao so you can feel your opponents every move before he can finish initiating it, allowing you to perceive his every move so you can cut him off every time instead of trying to over power the guy as I've seen many do (which is not every effective tactic if you want to conserve energy).

Personally in the past I had sparred with many other people (Karate, Jiu-jitsu, kempo, teakwando, shaolin, etc) with far more experience than me, and I must say wing chun theories and applications gave me a huge advantage in dealing with almost anything they had to throw at me in spite of my lack of knowledge, sparring and practice time which they already had over me. So even if I had never practiced how to counter a spinning back kick, WC gave me enough protection to somehow counter it at the time. It's a very conservative art form. It's not fancy. It's meant to just get the job done and move on. Very straight forward! It's definitely an old mans kung fu! Meaning there's a lot of wisdom behind it!

Later!