White Crane / Crane kunf fu videos

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Hi

Des anyone know where I can view/download videos on white crane kung fu?

Cheers

[Ben Gash]

On a thread on this forum
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...t=39988&page=2

[Lama Pai Sifu]

what kind of white crane are you talking about?

Tibetan (from the style Lama Pai) or Fukien?

[Ben Gash]

Sifu Parrella, will those old instructional Vids you did ever be re-released? Or will you be doing any more?

[bustr]

what kind of white crane are you talking about?

Tibetan (from the style Lama Pai) or Fukien?

Forgive my ignorance but are the two styles related? I'm reading Michael P Staples' book and he says they are. However when I look at his style it bears no resemblance to the crane boxing in karate or the Fujian Baihe that Martin Watts demonstrates here:

www.fujianbaihe.com

[Ben Gash]

Karate is descended from Fujian Crane yeas.
As for the other question, confusion arises because there are 2 southern white crane systems. There's Fujian Bai He, but there's also another system of Tibetian descent, a cousin to Lama Pai and Hop Gar, which as with those systems (to a greater or lesser extent) looks like Tibetian Kung Fu crossed with Cantonese Shaolin.

[Ben Gash]

there are Fujian BaiHe and Hop Gar clips, on the video thread on this foum (see the link in my previous post)

[TenTigers]

the short-hand techniques of Lama and Hop[-Ga bear strong resemblance to many of Fukien White Crane techniques which suggests a connection. Leung Guan studied with a sum-duhk monk from Tibet, and it is alsosuggested that Sahm-Dot-the founder of SPM might also be from Tibet as well.

[Lama Pai Sifu]

I do not agree TT. Although I am far from an expert in Fukien white crane, I have never seen any connection whatsoever to the Tibetan styles of Lama/White Crane/Hop Ga.

No connection other than; every style shares commonality with others.

[TenTigers]

In David Chin's book on Hop-Ga, he shows twelve short-hand techniques. Many of these are similar to short hand techniques seen in Fukien White Crane as well as in SPM. I cannot say for the usage, as I am not knowledgable on this subject, and Iknow appearances are far different than usage, but there are still similarities.
What can you offer on the twelve short hand techniques?

[Lama Pai Sifu]

I haven't seen the book you are referring to in a looong time.

But I can tell you that in Lama Pai (The style which birthed Haap Ga and Bok Hok Pai - white crane style) there is no set of "twelve shorthand techniques."

Although LP is by design a long-range style, there are many techniques that are considered 'short-range' as well. But they do not look like, nor are the used like the one's in fukiese White Crane. Besides, even if you could find a few moves that LOOK similiar, their use and certainly their energy/play is totall different. Not similiar at all.

By the way, TT are you going to the Jow Tigers tourny next weekend? If you are, I'll see you there!

[TenTigers]

can't-my daughters are in a show that weekend, and I can't miss them perform.
Good luck to your guys=bring home the gold!

[jack]

If we observe carefully. Bagua, Wingchun, Yongchun Whitecrane, Xingyi, Taiji & Praying Mantis etc. all share certain kinds of resemblances.