(Edit ... actually I don't understand how people get like that.)Originally Posted by KC Elbows
As for the Ninjitsu / Ninjutsu, that's kindof a joke. We used to call it Ninjitsu but at some point Bujinkan I think called it Ninjutsu to point out they were different from the Hayes folks, I think. I have no idea.
Basically it seems like most people are sheep. They don't think about what they are doing. They don't use their brains.
So if a sheep is following Bush vs. Democrats vs. anything else, what's the difference?
If somebody's holding a gun to their brains, then that's a difference, I guess.
Anyways, whatever. Have I ever been duped in my life? Yes. Have I ever been part of a cult-like martial arts group? Yes.
I was brought up under fundamentalist Christianity, but it was obvious by age 12 that they were full of crap. I mean, where's the proof? There is no proof.
But it seems like what went on with this group was far and away the act of people not using their brains and walking away from a situation, which is what I don't understand.
I mean, did the guy walk on water or something? Seriously, I mean, would you do all that stuff for a stage magician like Chriss Angel? Because from what I've been told this guy did nothing but martial arts and people did all this stuff.
I just don't get it. It makes no sense at all.
But yeah, Ninjitsu / Ninjutsu wasn't as bad as what you're saying. I mean, there was pressure to give more $$$ for more training so the teacher could go back to Japan for more training, and they didn't always test their stuff against experienced martial artists, and at some point they started to force their version of religion, which is when I walked, but they didn't do the stuff you're saying.
But how would anybody buy the stuff they're saying? I mean, they're just a martial arts group. It's just too weird. I've come across a lot of other CMD stuff around and it's just like, "????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????"
Jim Jones is the same thing. ???? What the heck? Maybe you have to actually be there in that group to understand what they went through, because the text descriptions sure don't describe it.