Well I am actually not learning BaJi per se, my sifu is a mantis Shifu, and taiji Sifu but he knows one Baji form and taught it to me, and one short BaGua form, and he makes me walk circle all the time too, no one else seems to get these things or the extra torture, er application practice I mean that I get from him, I am thinking that may be a good thing, but my back arms and basically most of my body that is sore tends to disagree with me sometimes...ouch. Actually I think I get a slightly less watered down than most of the students, you know many people cant handle the traditional stuff, its intense, actually niether can I, but I am working up to it faster than I would like and apparently slower than he'd like lol. I am primarily a taiji student, I had no idea how intense taiji was/is when I started, I just thought I was going to learn some health exercise, I already had black belt in hapkido and in judo, I have to say I think taiji will be a superior fighting system to those when I get to a more advanced level due to the emphasis on issuing internal power. That being said, hapkido is great as a self defense style, its basically a combination of Tae Kyon/Tang Soo Do etc. and Aikido.Originally Posted by RAF