Jackie Chan

[nickV]

hi,if there are any jackie chan fans then what is your 10 favourite jackie movies???What kind of kung fu does jackie chan do?

[PangQuan]

drunken master for sure

my fave jackie movies are the ones he directed.


read this book

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/iamjackiechan/

[jethro]

To name a few more that I enjoyed DM, DM2, Project A(chinese version only), supercop, Police Story(get chinese version, impossible to find original, also, do not buy "crime force"), dragons forever, wheels on meals, Hand of Death(not the main guy, but he is very good in this), first strike(for the ladder fight and the underwater fu), and do not miss out on snake in eagle's shadow.

[GeneChing]

Young Master is my fav Jackie flick. It's got the best choregraphy, lots of complex fight scenes, and catches Jackie in his fighting prime.

But I got to add that the coolest ones are the new ones that haven't been released in the USA: New Police Story & The Myth. You got to get those on DVD and they'll make you the life of the party, assuming that party is talking about Jackie Chan.

[jethro]

don't scare me like that. I place the 2 fights with benny the jet right behind that whoel movie. And admit it gene, your favorite part of the movie is when teh credits role and jackie sings that wonderful song

[ChangHFY]

My favorite Jackie Chan movies are:
The Myth
The new police story
Dragons Forever
shaolin wooden men
Snake and Crane arts of Shaolin
Dragon Fist
Drunken Master 1 and 2

I cant wait to see the new Jackie movies either.

[BoulderDawg]

I've read the comments that Jackie Chan made before a group of Chinese Business men:

"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not," Chan said Saturday. "I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want."

He went on to say that freedoms in Hong Kong and Taiwan made those societies "chaotic."

Chan's comments drew applause from a predominantly Chinese audience of business leaders

I'm beyond shocked. Jackie Chan is a racist. I respect the man's right to his opinion on politics. There are many people on this board who have brought into the Chinese government propaganda they spread hook, line and sinker. That said his suggestion that the Chinese people are simply stupid children that need looking after is no different than the comments made in this country a 150 years ago as an argument to not free the slaves.

[taai gihk yahn]

I'm beyond shocked. Jackie Chan is a racist.

no he's not: he's talking about fellow Chinese - how exactly would that constitute racism, if it de facto applies to him as well?:

I respect the man's right to his opinion on politics. There are many people on this board who have brought into the Chinese government propaganda they spread hook, line and sinker.

Chinese government propaganda has been going on for millennia; I don't know who has bought into it, it's pretty apparent that historically the government has been relatively oligarchic and repressive in its content;

That said his suggestion that the Chinese people are simply stupid children that need looking after is no different than the comments made in this country a 150 years ago as an argument to not free the slaves.

that's a bit of a reach; while it is suggesting limitation on personal freedom, it's not in the sense that one group of people should be owned by another as property;

sounds more like the man has some sort of quasi-Confucist political perspective; nothing new there - the history of China has been an on-going debate about just how much freedom people should have, from the rigidity of the Confucists to the anarchy of the Taoists and everywhere in between; the way that sort of comment is going to be perceived in China is not the same as it would be received elsewhere in the world

[ngokfei]

JC is making these comments as a Rich Man as many of the new elite of China do.

On many a program I've seen how these individuals want to protect their ability to compete in the world market by controling their workers (ie: paying them very little $$ compared other countries).

There is no such thing as true Communism. What we see is Dictatorships using military force.

He still made some cool movies though

[TenTigers]

people who live under tight control and suddenly find freedom often become decadent. Look at Russia, HK, and Catholic High School Girls.

[ngokfei]

Yep can't forget the USA. We were so moral and ..... under British Rule. Now we've gone and infected the world

What about those Hung Ga Exponents

[taai gihk yahn]

Look at...Catholic High School Girls.

I try to, every time I drive by one of their schools; although lately, when I slow the mini-van to a crawl and open the remote side-door, I've noticed one of the nuns pull out a cell phone and dial what I am assuming to be 911 (can't imagine why, I always drop them back off when I'm finished with the "photo shoot"; maybe its the duct tape residue )

[BoulderDawg]

no he's not: he's talking about fellow Chinese - how exactly would that constitute racism, if it de facto applies to him as well?:

In police stations all over America some of the most racist attitudes towards blacks are held by black officers.

The real dividing force here is weath and social status. Chan has lost touch.

that's a bit of a reach; while it is suggesting limitation on personal freedom, it's not in the sense that one group of people should be owned by another as property

doesn't matter, the argument is about freedom and whether or not an entire race of people is intelligent enough to decide their own faith.

[taai gihk yahn]

In police stations all over America some of the most racist attitudes towards blacks are held by black officers.

non sequitur; even if black officers have negative attitudes towards other blacks, it's not racism per se, because racism is predicated on inter-racial interaction: prejudice / discrimination of a member of one race towards a person of a different race; if a black officer discriminates against a black suspect, he cannot be acting out of a non-black to black differentiation;

The real dividing force here is weath and social status.

that my be so, although that has nothing to do intrinsically with race, per se

Chan has lost touch.

lost touch with what? his "roots"? I don't know - in fact, I'd say he's looking back to the excessive structure of his upbringing as a touchstone for his expressed opinion: bear in mind that his youth was spent under sever discipline, and he has always credited sd ky to his professional achievements; so for him, structure / control was what he knew and what engendered his personal success

doesn't matter, the argument is about freedom and whether or not an entire race of people is intelligent enough to decide their own faith.

what does it have to do with faith? he's not talking about religion per se; or you may men "fate"? if so, well, again, he's talking about it inclusively: he didn't say "all Chinese except me should be controlled" - he appears to be including himself, at least by implication; so while he may be speaking inappropriately for others, he does not appear to be implying that it wouldn't apply to him as well;

anyway, I think that to condemn him as racist is at best disingenuous: it might be more opportune to step back for a moment and consider the nature of his experience in context of his upbringing as relates to the situation in China today; at best, I would label his view as conservative, at worst, elitist, or even repressive; but not racist;

[BoulderDawg]

Racism is defined as a derogatory attitude towards another group based on race or culture.

That's my definition and Chan fits the bill. I understand there are people here who see Chan as some sort of hero but he made the statements.

And further more he has now lied about it and said that he was only talking about the entertainment industry.....right!

so less freedom in the entertainment industry....Isn't that called censorship?